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Originally Posted by FlyBoat (Post 2524176)

Straight off the FCOM. Suggest you re-read...

Flight controls .................................................. ........Checked C, F/O

Make slow and deliberate inputs, one direction at a time.

Move the control wheel and the control column to full travel in both directions and verify: • freedom of movement • that the controls return to center • correct flight control movement on the EICAS display

You’re twisting my argument.
I know what it says so you can ask him to slide his seat back.
I know of no Part 23 or 25 aircraft that requires full elevator control IN FLIGHT during normal or abnormal procedures.
Speed x deflection = desired effect
Now.....as I said...I’d be concerned about medical reasons.
If this guy is so seriously obese it’s not healthy.
And we both know AME’s rubber stamping Medicals.
If this guy keels over in flight and he’s such a fat bastard then you’ll have a problem with the flight controls.
Especially with these guys that click off their shoulder belts right after rotation.

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Why would you say this on an open forum? To be malicious, to publicly shame the individual is exactly why some one would make this post rather than going to pro standards and keeping the matter private.
Are you on probation still?

Tackling the important issues at ATI

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Originally Posted by No Land 3 (Post 2524579)

Well now he didn’t mention names now did he.
And if he is a fat bastard he needs to be called out on it.
He posted here to ask for opinions which he got in droves.

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Originally Posted by TiredSoul (Post 2523721)

Depends what you’re flying.
The flight control check is there to make sure the flight controls are clear from any ( internal) obstructions.
I haven’t flown a Part 23 or 25 airplane yet that requires full elevator travel during normal or abnormal operations.
Ask him to slide his seat back for the flight control check.
To me this would be more of a medical issue.

Huh?

Well, I've never needed to use any of the fire extinguishers either! Guess we don't need those either.

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Originally Posted by zerozero (Post 2524715)

Huh?

Well, I've never needed to use any of the fire extinguishers either! Guess we don't need those either.

You know that’s a BS counter argument.
How much deflection do you use to rotate? To recover from unusual attitudes? High altitude upset? Recover from anything the airplane is certified for?
Read my previous posts, I’m not denying it’s a problem.
Just a medical one in my opinion.
There is some FAA guidance on BMI from like 2013.
AME’s instructed to pay special attention to obese pilots in reference to sleep apnea and such.

I think the engineers at Boeing know how much control authority to design into the aircraft. After all, the rudder has a limiter. But not the elevator.

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Originally Posted by motorclutch (Post 2524761)

“Belly Limiter”

What if the problem was a female with a ginormous rack?
Flight safety? Standards?