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midnightshuttle 02-08-2018 06:56 AM

Flight control check- ATI
 
The following is not intended to be malicious but a serious issue. As of late I flew with a capt that could not complete a flight control check due to his size. When I noticed a lack of elevator travel on the status page he had to push back off the pedals. I made a comment but wasn’t effective. Im unable to find any written guidance. Is it a union or standards issue? Medical? Im not a fan of this place but don’t want to flame a fellow flyer.

motorclutch 02-08-2018 07:04 AM

Safety report! If the fat bastard can’t get his belly out of the way then you have a real safety issue. I’m sure V1 will try to hide this issue the same way he did with V2 almost flaming out a jet in SMF.

txflyer9 02-08-2018 01:39 PM


Originally Posted by midnightshuttle (Post 2523118)
The following is not intended to be malicious but a serious issue. As of late I flew with a capt that could not complete a flight control check due to his size. When I noticed a lack of elevator travel on the status page he had to push back off the pedals. I made a comment but wasn’t effective. Im unable to find any written guidance. Is it a union or standards issue? Medical? Im not a fan of this place but don’t want to flame a fellow flyer.

It's absolutely meant to be malicious! If you're man enough to make an accusation do it to the proper channels. If you're to ignorant to know the proper channels then we have another issue.

baldwin 02-08-2018 01:41 PM


Originally Posted by txflyer9 (Post 2523458)
It's absolutely meant to be malicious! If you're man enough to make an accusation do it to the proper channels. If you're to ignorant to know the proper channels then we have another issue.

yep. pretty much.

Wings1856 02-08-2018 04:03 PM


Originally Posted by midnightshuttle (Post 2523118)
The following is not intended to be malicious but a serious issue. As of late I flew with a capt that could not complete a flight control check due to his size. When I noticed a lack of elevator travel on the status page he had to push back off the pedals. I made a comment but wasn’t effective. Im unable to find any written guidance. Is it a union or standards issue? Medical? Im not a fan of this place but don’t want to flame a fellow flyer.

You are totally unprofessional. Please leave.

CargoPirate 02-08-2018 07:42 PM

That is a serious safety issue.

If the guy is to big to allow full and free movement of the flight controls then he needs to be removed from flight duty until the situation is corrected.

Send a report to the union and give them a chance to handle the situation.

TiredSoul 02-08-2018 11:57 PM

Depends what you’re flying.
The flight control check is there to make sure the flight controls are clear from any ( internal) obstructions.
I haven’t flown a Part 23 or 25 airplane yet that requires full elevator travel during normal or abnormal operations.
Ask him to slide his seat back for the flight control check.
To me this would be more of a medical issue.

hackerbyday 02-09-2018 07:57 AM

Could this be a safety issue? Maybe, but not during a flight control check on the ground. If a persons size interferes with aircreaft control then yes and I would hope that it would have been identified during simulator training.
That being said if this was a TRUE safety issue for you then why did you continue the flight with this individual? Kind of like saying braking action is NIL then continuing to taxi. I feel that you are only interested in stirring the pot and embarrassing the Captain. I would be careful of such actions as this could be construed as workplace harassment.

motorclutch 02-09-2018 08:13 AM

File a safety report......takes care of the workplace harassment argument.

qiutong 02-09-2018 09:24 AM

Hey, wait a minute...I don’t fly for ATI?? Lol


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