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Old 02-08-2018, 06:56 AM   #1
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Default Flight control check- ATI

The following is not intended to be malicious but a serious issue. As of late I flew with a capt that could not complete a flight control check due to his size. When I noticed a lack of elevator travel on the status page he had to push back off the pedals. I made a comment but wasnít effective. Im unable to find any written guidance. Is it a union or standards issue? Medical? Im not a fan of this place but donít want to flame a fellow flyer.
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Old 02-08-2018, 07:04 AM   #2
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Safety report! If the fat bastard canít get his belly out of the way then you have a real safety issue. Iím sure V1 will try to hide this issue the same way he did with V2 almost flaming out a jet in SMF.
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The following is not intended to be malicious but a serious issue. As of late I flew with a capt that could not complete a flight control check due to his size. When I noticed a lack of elevator travel on the status page he had to push back off the pedals. I made a comment but wasnít effective. Im unable to find any written guidance. Is it a union or standards issue? Medical? Im not a fan of this place but donít want to flame a fellow flyer.
It's absolutely meant to be malicious! If you're man enough to make an accusation do it to the proper channels. If you're to ignorant to know the proper channels then we have another issue.
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Old 02-08-2018, 01:41 PM   #4
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It's absolutely meant to be malicious! If you're man enough to make an accusation do it to the proper channels. If you're to ignorant to know the proper channels then we have another issue.
yep. pretty much.
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The following is not intended to be malicious but a serious issue. As of late I flew with a capt that could not complete a flight control check due to his size. When I noticed a lack of elevator travel on the status page he had to push back off the pedals. I made a comment but wasnít effective. Im unable to find any written guidance. Is it a union or standards issue? Medical? Im not a fan of this place but donít want to flame a fellow flyer.
You are totally unprofessional. Please leave.
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Old 02-08-2018, 07:42 PM   #6
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That is a serious safety issue.

If the guy is to big to allow full and free movement of the flight controls then he needs to be removed from flight duty until the situation is corrected.

Send a report to the union and give them a chance to handle the situation.
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Old 02-08-2018, 11:57 PM   #7
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Depends what youíre flying.
The flight control check is there to make sure the flight controls are clear from any ( internal) obstructions.
I havenít flown a Part 23 or 25 airplane yet that requires full elevator travel during normal or abnormal operations.
Ask him to slide his seat back for the flight control check.
To me this would be more of a medical issue.
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Could this be a safety issue? Maybe, but not during a flight control check on the ground. If a persons size interferes with aircreaft control then yes and I would hope that it would have been identified during simulator training.
That being said if this was a TRUE safety issue for you then why did you continue the flight with this individual? Kind of like saying braking action is NIL then continuing to taxi. I feel that you are only interested in stirring the pot and embarrassing the Captain. I would be careful of such actions as this could be construed as workplace harassment.
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File a safety report......takes care of the workplace harassment argument.
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Old 02-09-2018, 09:24 AM   #10
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Hey, wait a minute...I donít fly for ATI?? Lol
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