Flight control check- ATI
02-09-2018, 09:54 AM
#11
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Originally Posted by hackerbyday
Could this be a safety issue? Maybe, but not during a flight control check on the ground. If a persons size interferes with aircreaft control then yes and I would hope that it would have been identified during simulator training.
That being said if this was a TRUE safety issue for you then why did you continue the flight with this individual? Kind of like saying braking action is NIL then continuing to taxi. I feel that you are only interested in stirring the pot and embarrassing the Captain. I would be careful of such actions as this could be construed as workplace harassment.
That being said if this was a TRUE safety issue for you then why did you continue the flight with this individual? Kind of like saying braking action is NIL then continuing to taxi. I feel that you are only interested in stirring the pot and embarrassing the Captain. I would be careful of such actions as this could be construed as workplace harassment.
What level of flight control restriction is okay? Who gets to make the decision? I can't find anything in FAA Documentation that says it is okay to have flight control restricted movement. Could you point that out for me?
It is not harassment of any kind to point out to the union or the company for that matter a possible safety of flight issue. It is in fact HIS JOB to alert the proper authorities of any possible safety issues.
Only in bizarro PC world could this possible be seen harassment.
02-09-2018, 11:11 AM
#12
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Originally Posted by Screwed
It is not harassment of any kind to point out to the union or the company for that matter a possible safety of flight issue. It is in fact HIS JOB to alert the proper authorities of any possible safety issues.
Only in bizarro PC world could this possible be seen harassment.
Last edited by hackerbyday; 02-09-2018 at 11:46 AM.
02-09-2018, 12:11 PM
#13
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Originally Posted by Screwed
What level of flight control restriction is okay? Who gets to make the decision? I can't find anything in FAA Documentation that says it is okay to have flight control restricted movement. Could you point that out for me?
It’s funny though how people start out by saying its not meant to be malicious but then continue to shame someone on a public forum.
The first line should say find a better way.
02-09-2018, 02:20 PM
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Originally Posted by TiredSoul
Depends what you’re flying.
The flight control check is there to make sure the flight controls are clear from any ( internal) obstructions.
I haven’t flown a Part 23 or 25 airplane yet that requires full elevator travel during normal or abnormal operations.
Ask him to slide his seat back for the flight control check.
To me this would be more of a medical issue.
The flight control check is there to make sure the flight controls are clear from any ( internal) obstructions.
I haven’t flown a Part 23 or 25 airplane yet that requires full elevator travel during normal or abnormal operations.
Ask him to slide his seat back for the flight control check.
To me this would be more of a medical issue.
Flight controls .................................................. ........Checked C, F/O
Make slow and deliberate inputs, one direction at a time.
Move the control wheel and the control column to full travel in both directions and verify: • freedom of movement • that the controls return to center • correct flight control movement on the EICAS display
02-09-2018, 08:30 PM
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..Safety issue or not, I would not fly any aircraft where full and unrestricted flight control movements were not available..I can think of several abnormals / emergencies where full elevator up travel might be needed..Having flown the boeing I know it is a quality machine, but....
Fly safe,
B757
Fly safe,
B757
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