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Old 02-10-2018 | 02:11 AM
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Originally Posted by FlyBoat
Straight off the FCOM. Suggest you re-read...

Flight controls .................................................. ........Checked C, F/O

Make slow and deliberate inputs, one direction at a time.

Move the control wheel and the control column to full travel in both directions and verify: • freedom of movement • that the controls return to center • correct flight control movement on the EICAS display
You’re twisting my argument.
I know what it says so you can ask him to slide his seat back.
I know of no Part 23 or 25 aircraft that requires full elevator control IN FLIGHT during normal or abnormal procedures.
Speed x deflection = desired effect
Now.....as I said...I’d be concerned about medical reasons.
If this guy is so seriously obese it’s not healthy.
And we both know AME’s rubber stamping Medicals.
If this guy keels over in flight and he’s such a fat bastard then you’ll have a problem with the flight controls.
Especially with these guys that click off their shoulder belts right after rotation.

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Old 02-10-2018 | 06:35 AM
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Why would you say this on an open forum? To be malicious, to publicly shame the individual is exactly why some one would make this post rather than going to pro standards and keeping the matter private.
Are you on probation still?
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Old 02-10-2018 | 07:03 AM
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Tackling the important issues at ATI
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Old 02-10-2018 | 07:23 AM
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I think we found Elvis!
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Old 02-10-2018 | 09:01 AM
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Originally Posted by No Land 3
Why would you say this on an open forum? To be malicious, to publicly shame the individual is exactly why some one would make this post rather than going to pro standards and keeping the matter private.
Are you on probation still?
Well now he didn’t mention names now did he.
And if he is a fat bastard he needs to be called out on it.
He posted here to ask for opinions which he got in droves.
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Old 02-10-2018 | 09:20 AM
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Originally Posted by TiredSoul
Depends what you’re flying.
The flight control check is there to make sure the flight controls are clear from any ( internal) obstructions.
I haven’t flown a Part 23 or 25 airplane yet that requires full elevator travel during normal or abnormal operations.
Ask him to slide his seat back for the flight control check.
To me this would be more of a medical issue.
Huh?

Well, I've never needed to use any of the fire extinguishers either! Guess we don't need those either.
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Old 02-10-2018 | 09:38 AM
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Originally Posted by zerozero
Huh?

Well, I've never needed to use any of the fire extinguishers either! Guess we don't need those either.
You know that’s a BS counter argument.
How much deflection do you use to rotate? To recover from unusual attitudes? High altitude upset? Recover from anything the airplane is certified for?
Read my previous posts, I’m not denying it’s a problem.
Just a medical one in my opinion.
There is some FAA guidance on BMI from like 2013.
AME’s instructed to pay special attention to obese pilots in reference to sleep apnea and such.
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Old 02-10-2018 | 10:00 AM
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I think the engineers at Boeing know how much control authority to design into the aircraft. After all, the rudder has a limiter. But not the elevator.
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Old 02-10-2018 | 10:04 AM
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“Belly Limiter”
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Old 02-10-2018 | 10:45 AM
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Originally Posted by motorclutch
“Belly Limiter”
What if the problem was a female with a ginormous rack?
Flight safety? Standards?
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