Originally Posted by l8fr82hub (Post 2544033)

The question was:
If this TA passes (hope it doesn’t) would it make ATI the lowest paid unionized widebody pilots in North America?

The answer is clearly no. And as long as our “sister” company seems content to work under their 2009 concessionary contract indefinitely it’s probably not gonna change.

Originally Posted by gumpscheck (Post 2544257)

Your “sister” company is not content at all. We are fighting the same management you guys are capitulating to. Our fight becomes that much harder if ATI gives in to the shiny new rates and the promise of bigger airplanes.

Originally Posted by redmanchew (Post 2544419)

Have to agree with baron and the others. ATI is doing the same work and does not deserve a penny less. Seems about time for ATI and ABX to come together and see that both airlines get what they deserve


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Originally Posted by MentalMidget (Post 2544229)

Looking at this TA a few items that need commentary, seems like ppl are blinded by the potential $$ signs (which are not that great) and skimming over other points that make up this TA and the quality of your life.

*Business class travel...>8hrs segment..hmm how many times will we use that one?......NO
*Hotel accommodations layovers >8 hrs ...again won't be utilized....NO
*Per Diem rates....I like to eat healthy and good, this does not come close....NO
*Retirement....NO CHANGES capped by IRS not ATI...NO
*Recorded Data Protections?....Needs greater claification
*And last but certainly not least ....NO SIGNING BONUS ...WTFFF..NOOOO

***please help me understand again why this is good so I can vote yes. although it is a fair starting point it is very weak overall and we are leaving way too much on the table. please chime in luv to hear others views

Originally Posted by nitefr8dog (Post 2544444)

How about scope....Hete would love to be able to move the aircraft around
With ATI like he wishes he could do with ABX

Originally Posted by l8fr82hub (Post 2543994)

No, ATIs annual guarantee would be higher than Atlas, Southern, ABX and Amerijet’s

Originally Posted by nitefr8dog (Post 2544464)

And you think that is good? It does not take much. In todays world those are all crap. And for a new TA .....ATI's is horible!

Originally Posted by l8fr82hub (Post 2544479)

No, read the thread. I was correcting the facts

Originally Posted by midnightshuttle (Post 2544556)

“Legacy” rationale & acquiescence