FDX PDO Bump/Deviation Question
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FDX PDO Bump/Deviation Question
Here's the situation. I have a scheduled deadhead to MKE on 2 April. The rest of the month I have D/H's that I won't be using.
I was out in HI and bought a ticket home on 31 March using my deviation bank for April. I know I'll be able to slide the ticket to April since it falls in the last 3 days of the bid month.
Someone called me wanting to PDO bump me from my MKE D/H on the 2nd, since he lives there and will be taking the jumpseat in anyhow. That leaves my first trip in April on the 3rd. I should still be legal to use my bank money for that since the 31st is within 3 days of the 3rd. My question deals with the clause that only a 24 hour delay is authorized domestically. Since the ticket from HI got me back home on the 1st in the am, and my revenue trip (if the PDO bump happens) is the morning of the 3rd, it's more that 24 hours. Will I be responsible for the price of the ticket if I accept the PDO bump?
I quick answer would be great, because I have to work this all out tonight. Fecav8r, your take?
Steve
I was out in HI and bought a ticket home on 31 March using my deviation bank for April. I know I'll be able to slide the ticket to April since it falls in the last 3 days of the bid month.
Someone called me wanting to PDO bump me from my MKE D/H on the 2nd, since he lives there and will be taking the jumpseat in anyhow. That leaves my first trip in April on the 3rd. I should still be legal to use my bank money for that since the 31st is within 3 days of the 3rd. My question deals with the clause that only a 24 hour delay is authorized domestically. Since the ticket from HI got me back home on the 1st in the am, and my revenue trip (if the PDO bump happens) is the morning of the 3rd, it's more that 24 hours. Will I be responsible for the price of the ticket if I accept the PDO bump?
I quick answer would be great, because I have to work this all out tonight. Fecav8r, your take?
Steve
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IT is my understanding that when you get bumped (PDO), the bumping pilot gets the bank money and you lose it. I cant quote the para of the contract, it comes from personal experience as I bump at least twice a month and a pilot I bumped included me in an email chain with crew pay and they stated he lost the bank money once bumped. Dont hold me to it, just a quick personal story relative to your question.
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IT is my understanding that when you get bumped (PDO), the bumping pilot gets the bank money and you lose it. I cant quote the para of the contract, it comes from personal experience as I bump at least twice a month and a pilot I bumped included me in an email chain with crew pay and they stated he lost the bank money once bumped. Dont hold me to it, just a quick personal story relative to your question.
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IT is my understanding that when you get bumped (PDO), the bumping pilot gets the bank money and you lose it. I cant quote the para of the contract, it comes from personal experience as I bump at least twice a month and a pilot I bumped included me in an email chain with crew pay and they stated he lost the bank money once bumped. Dont hold me to it, just a quick personal story relative to your question.
8.C.4.d d. Travel claimed as a deviation expense must begin or end within 3 days of the scheduled assignment to/from which the pilot is deviating (e.g. scheduled deadhead, trip or Rday) and must proceed to the intended destination of the deviation with no greater than a 24 hour delay enroute, domestically, and a 48 hour delay enroute internationally.
I'm worried that with the >24 hour delay enroute, my deviation ticket won't be authorized. Will they look at the fact that when I originally bought the ticket, the delay was <24 hours, but the PDO bump caused it to go over 24?
What do you guys think?
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I'm not worried about the bank money, I have enough with the other D/H's that I won't be using. I'm worried that I got home at 0900 on 1 April, and if I get PDO bumped, my revenue flight isn't until 0306 on 3 April. That a greater than 24 hour delay. Looking at the contract:
8.C.4.d d. Travel claimed as a deviation expense must begin or end within 3 days of the scheduled assignment to/from which the pilot is deviating (e.g. scheduled deadhead, trip or Rday) and must proceed to the intended destination of the deviation with no greater than a 24 hour delay enroute, domestically, and a 48 hour delay enroute internationally.
I'm worried that with the >24 hour delay enroute, my deviation ticket won't be authorized. Will they look at the fact that when I originally bought the ticket, the delay was <24 hours, but the PDO bump caused it to go over 24?
What do you guys think?
8.C.4.d d. Travel claimed as a deviation expense must begin or end within 3 days of the scheduled assignment to/from which the pilot is deviating (e.g. scheduled deadhead, trip or Rday) and must proceed to the intended destination of the deviation with no greater than a 24 hour delay enroute, domestically, and a 48 hour delay enroute internationally.
I'm worried that with the >24 hour delay enroute, my deviation ticket won't be authorized. Will they look at the fact that when I originally bought the ticket, the delay was <24 hours, but the PDO bump caused it to go over 24?
What do you guys think?
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The delay enroute is a stop over delay midway through your travels. If your starting or ending in HNL, you have 3 days. The 24 or 48 hours is when you go from HNL stop in SFO or somewhere else for a day or two and then continue on to your assignment or home. It's designed so when you deviate from SIN back to MEM, you can stop in NRT or somewhere for up to 48 hours to rest before you continue on. If you meet the 3 day rule for beginning or ending, you're good to go.
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