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03-21-2018, 10:33 AM

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say again

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I'm guessing this wasn't a very good TA...

03-21-2018, 10:34 AM

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Mesa Heavy, cross PIKET, descend and maintain the bottom of the barrel. Great work!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

03-21-2018, 10:42 AM

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JackStraw

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What an embarrassment of a pilot group.

03-21-2018, 10:52 AM

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Not only scabs, but they sold themselves with hopes of being "Prime Pilots" These people are an embarrassing to our industry. Now that the contract just passed it's just a matter of time before AMAZON buys them.

#primepilotsfly4less
#wetamazondreams

03-21-2018, 11:22 AM

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I’m half way tempted to push for a concessionary contract on the ABX side, so that the ATI guys can feel what it’s like to be on the receiving end of the whipsaw...that they’ve now perpetuated. I knew they weren’t going to resist, and sadly, I was correct.

03-21-2018, 11:35 AM

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Out Of Trim

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Originally Posted by Captjim

Way to go Mesa pilots, you guys are an embarrassment to the industry!

Please forgive me for sounding naive, but I know basically nothing about the history of your airline. I keep hearing these Mesa references and we all know the history of that place and it’s pilot group. Are these just off-handed analogies being made here OR is there actually a significant percentage of your pilots who really are ex-Mesa? Not trying to stir up any crap here ... just curious. I was at Mesa when their most recent disappointing contract was voted in. So I left. Sometimes that’s about all you can do. For those of you who may now opt to take that same path and “vote with your feet” (as we were so often encouraged to do at Mesa), I wish you the best of luck.

03-21-2018, 12:14 PM

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Industry Strnd

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Originally Posted by BlueSkies88

Who cares if Amazon buys ATI it's still one of the worst contracts in the industry! The retirement is way below even most regionals, the rates are lower than most narrow body rates, vacation isn't always vacation and schduling ..16 days in a row....less days off than nearly everyone on the industry.....if anyone thinks going here is a good idea do your research first. I bet alot will still leave but will just be higher paid while waiting for a real airline to call! ALPA is weak! ....scope that expires and "business opportunity " letter that states they will amend the contract!! SMH

03-21-2018, 01:00 PM

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midnightshuttle

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The JV letter broke the back of the group. This past week a very senior capt in ONT was fighting back tears saying he had to have this. He was very disturbed and frightened. May post on youtube

I said it would pass and it did. The group would have taken less.

Best of luck on the next TA’s

03-21-2018, 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Industry Strnd

So probably a large group will leave at the first opportunity. In the meantime they did the damage by voting for such selfish short term gain. Those who voted for it and leave are worse than scum. They won’t even reap the consequences of their actions.