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Old 04-26-2018, 10:01 AM
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Originally Posted by No Land 3 View Post
I hope it does, and eventually we leap frog them. That’s how it is supposed to work. Let’s just hope inflation doesn’t get to the point where 300k a year is chump change...
No kidding..
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Old 04-26-2018, 10:52 AM
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Looking at how K4's retirement is WORSE than Atlas's... My Apps would be out and I'd be furious to be working with people who think that's fine. I wouldn't complain in the cockpit, but I'd be searching for an airline that has a plan for my retirement. That airline wouldn't be K4.
If you can’t fund your own retirement making 300k a year, you got bigger problems
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Old 04-26-2018, 11:10 AM
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If you can’t fund your own retirement making 300k a year, you got bigger problems
I have not seen 300k..where is that in your contract?
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Old 04-26-2018, 03:54 PM
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Originally Posted by nitefr8dog View Post
I have not seen 300k..where is that in your contract?
You havent seen because you refuse to...you dont believe what k4 guys report on here

So one more time
We make 75-100 hours pay in the 16 days we owe them
It is very easy to work 2-4 extra days and make another 40-60 hrs

Now the stars wont line up every month and some dont want ot

I made 275 last year and worked 3 ot trips

A close freind (9yearCA) made close to 500 by working his arse off

Do you see it now?
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Old 04-26-2018, 07:56 PM
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Originally Posted by nitefr8dog View Post
BS....I can name as many crewmembers who did not accept JRM assignments. I have never worked a day I did not want. You get a red NAV on your schedule. Try it! Those that made barrels of money month in month out let it happen dropped d6 days and enjoyed their time off. P.S. I never have nor will I ever let any employer force me to do anything. If you do you are foolish.
^^^^management ^|
^^^^~^ you can't refuse junior man at abx. You can and will be forced to work on your days off! I dare this this guy point where in the cba one can refuse.......he can't period, ACMI is a laugh of the industry. Look elsewhere young grasshopper!
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Old 04-27-2018, 09:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Lockheed View Post
You havent seen because you refuse to...you dont believe what k4 guys report on here

So one more time
We make 75-100 hours pay in the 16 days we owe them
It is very easy to work 2-4 extra days and make another 40-60 hrs

Now the stars wont line up every month and some dont want ot

I made 275 last year and worked 3 ot trips

A close freind (9yearCA) made close to 500 by working his arse off

Do you see it now?
Yes I see you working on your days off to fund your own retirement! How is that better than 300k at Federal or UPS without sacrificing home time/QOL? One CP we used to have that was a close friend of mine who got stuck doing contract negotiations asked me once.....why do you guys work OT and buy your vacations back....why not just ask for more money...the company will pay more!
300k is not that much. And you don't have to work your arse off. We all have lots of pilots north of 300/400/500. I would be impressed with 300k and days off with retirement. ACMI sucks!
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Originally Posted by Industry Strnd View Post
^^^^management ^|
^^^^~^ you can't refuse junior man at abx. You can and will be forced to work on your days off! I dare this this guy point where in the cba one can refuse.......he can't period, ACMI is a laugh of the industry. Look elsewhere young grasshopper!
And nowhere in our contract does it say the hotels we stay at will have running water or toilets that flush...would you stay there if they didn't? For Chri$t's sake! Grow a pair! If its time to go home GO HOME!
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Originally Posted by nitefr8dog View Post
Yes I see you working on your days off to fund your own retirement! How is that better than 300k at Federal or UPS without sacrificing home time/QOL? One CP we used to have that was a close friend of mine who got stuck doing contract negotiations asked me once.....why do you guys work OT and buy your vacations back....why not just ask for more money...the company will pay more!
300k is not that much. And you don't have to work your arse off. We all have lots of pilots north of 300/400/500. I would be impressed with 300k and days off with retirement. ACMI sucks!
When did this become a Kalitta vs UPS/FedEx argument? The only thing K4 has on those two is not having to commute, but if you’re willing to move to base and get a job with those, do it.

You won’t get rich on work rules here. The guys that bring in top dollar fly their asses off. We (747) do not sit R1 in the CVG chow hall. We do not do hub turns. We do not only fly at night. If you don’t want to fly overtime you might not break 300 *gasp* but no one is forcing you to fly on your days off.

This isn’t a contract negotiation online, so there’s no need for this victim woe is me mentality here. Boo hoo I had to go to work to make more than the average American can even fathom. Most of the Kalitta guys are actually happy, so dropping a giant deuce on the entire industry is unwarranted.
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Originally Posted by nitefr8dog View Post
Yes I see you working on your days off to fund your own retirement! How is that better than 300k at Federal or UPS without sacrificing home time/QOL? One CP we used to have that was a close friend of mine who got stuck doing contract negotiations asked me once.....why do you guys work OT and buy your vacations back....why not just ask for more money...the company will pay more!
300k is not that much. And you don't have to work your arse off. We all have lots of pilots north of 300/400/500. I would be impressed with 300k and days off with retirement. ACMI sucks!

man you need a new job or pills or something
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man you need a new job or pills or something
I guess it was a tough question....let me try again...where in your contract does it say you get paid 300k( to fund your retirement)..********

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