Abx new hire
#23
... repost from over a year ago.
For ANYONE considering ABX as a career choice, please heed the warnings. These are the good ol’ days in the airline industry, don’t settle for the lifestyle that ABX offers. The pilots at ABX are absolutely outstanding airman, but they don’t control your life like the callous and uncaring management you will work for. I gave up the chance to be #1 on the ABX list to be junior forever at a legacy carrier. And, I’d do it over a thousand times. Think hard about your choices.
A little over a year ago, I left ABX after 21 years for a legacy airline. That was a tough decision, but I'm 100% happy I had the opportunity to leave. What really pushed me out the door was the burden of angst that I seemed to carry even when I was at home. Keep in mind that there is a massive divide between the old crews and the new hires at ABX. Most existing crew members there have a couple of decades or more at the company. They remember what it was like to fly for a company that had integrity, goals and pride. The cargo world is devoid of niceties and extras that the pax carriers take for granted... but that's ok. That's part of the sacrifice and buy-in that it takes to do the work. However, for that commitment, there is the expectation that the employer is going to fight like hell to be a great airline and support its people (pilots). Airborne Express was like that.
Unfortunately, for a variety of reasons, ABX Air lost it's moral compass. The path that management chose to take after DHL in 2003 has manifested into a toxic culture. The "old heads" will never forget the awful fall from grace that the company electively chose. For you new guys, congratulations for being hired into an international, heavy jet operation, that's valuable. But do yourself a favor and don't let it be your entire life. If you can avoid letting your work world taint your personal life, you'll probably be ok. You don't have the baggage of distrust and heartache that the old crews hold. Just beware, it's invasive, like a cancer. Go fly the big airplanes and see the world, but don't believe in promises and false hope. Maybe you can be the new guard that turns things around.
For ANYONE considering ABX as a career choice, please heed the warnings. These are the good ol’ days in the airline industry, don’t settle for the lifestyle that ABX offers. The pilots at ABX are absolutely outstanding airman, but they don’t control your life like the callous and uncaring management you will work for. I gave up the chance to be #1 on the ABX list to be junior forever at a legacy carrier. And, I’d do it over a thousand times. Think hard about your choices.
A little over a year ago, I left ABX after 21 years for a legacy airline. That was a tough decision, but I'm 100% happy I had the opportunity to leave. What really pushed me out the door was the burden of angst that I seemed to carry even when I was at home. Keep in mind that there is a massive divide between the old crews and the new hires at ABX. Most existing crew members there have a couple of decades or more at the company. They remember what it was like to fly for a company that had integrity, goals and pride. The cargo world is devoid of niceties and extras that the pax carriers take for granted... but that's ok. That's part of the sacrifice and buy-in that it takes to do the work. However, for that commitment, there is the expectation that the employer is going to fight like hell to be a great airline and support its people (pilots). Airborne Express was like that.
Unfortunately, for a variety of reasons, ABX Air lost it's moral compass. The path that management chose to take after DHL in 2003 has manifested into a toxic culture. The "old heads" will never forget the awful fall from grace that the company electively chose. For you new guys, congratulations for being hired into an international, heavy jet operation, that's valuable. But do yourself a favor and don't let it be your entire life. If you can avoid letting your work world taint your personal life, you'll probably be ok. You don't have the baggage of distrust and heartache that the old crews hold. Just beware, it's invasive, like a cancer. Go fly the big airplanes and see the world, but don't believe in promises and false hope. Maybe you can be the new guard that turns things around.
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Over twenty in my case. All Nite is trying to do is open your eyes, and everyone else’s, so you all don’t make the same mistake we did. But you are too consumed with yourself and you are getting defensive.
I guess you won’t believe Nite until you see the first announcement about furloughs and captain surpluses. Which I believe is around the corner. Then don’t come crying to us.
I guess you won’t believe Nite until you see the first announcement about furloughs and captain surpluses. Which I believe is around the corner. Then don’t come crying to us.
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#30
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I am not waiting for an upgrade that will not happen. I also am not sitting reserve and buying crashpads and hotel rooms while eating out of my own pocket. I have the things you should have and could have elsewhere...like a retirement and profit sharing. If I didn't I would not be here. If they close the doors tomorrow it would not change my lifestyle at all. Like I have said before...the idiots at ATI will be working to fund my retirement. How about you..would you be scrambling to find work? If so you should not be wasting more time at ABX. If it's just a hobby for you or you just like to stay up all night to fly airplanes by all means stay.
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