I'm no expert, I was just throwing in my .02 cents. I just filled out the app, and from what I've heard with the ANC basing, I think they're looking for guys who have flown across the pond, not for guys who've flown into Canada and Mexico.

 

Why is it after you fill out the app, it says this next:

Congratulations! You have now completed the application for employment at UPS. The next step in the process is to schedule an appointment to come in to a UPS facility or to a recruiting location. After choosing an appointment time, you will be given directions to the facility and told what to expect at the appointment and what to bring.

The next available appointment is on:

There are no more appointments available.

We're sorry but there are no appointment times currently available. You may check back at a later time to see if more appointment times have been made available. To do this, simply return to 'My Job Inquiries' at www.upsjobs.com, select your application and then click on the Schedule button. You may now either close your browser window or click on the "Logout" link on the upper left side of the page.

 

from what I have been told... the air ops side of the house has been "forced" into using the same system as all other departments. Air Ops does not use that appointment feature.

Good Luck!

 

I love it. I have 3700 fighter hours, Instructor/Evaluator, flown international all over Europe, Middle East and Asia. I've crossed the Pacific and the Atlantic more times than I can count...737type rating/ATP/FEX

But I dont meet the mins to even apply at UPS.

If I had 500 hours in a Transport, then I'd be qualified?

The ONLY guys who meet these mins are military heavy drivers. If you meet their mins and work for a civilian company, chances are you're not going to quit what you're doing to go back to seniority zero for the privledge of making $33,000 first year pay.

 

Same results here. I suppose they now know we have crossed the wee-pond and the larger pond. But still no resume attached to mine.

 

Not always the case 1S1E. I remember reading about a Hornet guy that's at UPS and still flies hornets in the reserve. But maybe they count his time on the boat as 'ocean crossing.' But seriously, I feel your pain. I'm just your typical Civvie/FLAP trying to get on at Brown eventually. Good luck bro. And good luck to everyone else.

 

I just finished filling out the on-line application and got this message after submitting it:

"We have received and reviewed your background application information. Unfortunately, we currently have many qualified applicants and will not be able to schedule you for additional testing at this time. Thank you for your interest in UPS."

My application status is "On File"

 

Steam Jet,

I believe it means you didn't meet the qual's their looking for. Keep trying, I wish you and all much luck next time around.

 

Before the AF heavy drivers roll in, I'll throw this out there:

I had the same opinions when I was a single-seat (dual engine) guy, but now having flown heavies international for awhile, I don't anymore.

Reasons?

I had a buttload of pond crossings, too, but until I got out of fighters I wouldn't have known what a NAT track was if I was ****ing on one. First HF position report I ever made was 6 years after my last fighter ride. The tanker guys took care of all that crap. Besides, my single TACAN and INS meant I wasn't helping much with the navigating, anyway. I also flew international all over Europe, the Middle East, and Asia, but until I flew heavies I never really noticed how much of that time I was talking to either a USAF RAPCON guy, tower controller, AWACS, or CRC guy. Meters? QFE? What?

Was learning any of the heavy stuff hard? Not really. It just ain't the same as what you're talking about. I was actually suprised at how different it all really was. Does that make you unqualified? Not in my opinion. But it probably makes you less qualified initially than a heavy guy who does it routinely.

I ran into the same problems when I got out of the AF, and I remember having the exact same thoughts as I applied for job after job - "I have X fighter hours, and can't get hired doing Y?" For the record, the list of jobs I failed to get with my fighter time is extensive, and includes everything from floatplanes to business jets. One B-1900 chief pilot, when I told him how much and what kind of experience I had, said "Well, that's not going to do you much good, is it?"

Eventually things turned out well, but I had a lot of those kinds of conversations before I ended up where I wanted to be. I wasn't really prepared for just how specific the civilian market can aford to be with their hiring requirements. For the most part, at least as far as hiring is concerned, what you are capable of doing is far less important than what you have already done. Which is what makes getting your dream job in this industry such a *****.

Longer than intended, but there's my $.02 and then some.

P.S. Besides, I would bet it's only for a hiring cycle or two until the ANC positions are manned.

 

Turtle,

I had the exact same thing happen. I tried a few times, but got the same message every time. Hopefully our apps will receive the same visibility as someone who is just now applying. Good luck to you to.