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Old 04-02-2019, 07:35 PM
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Originally Posted by aviatorhi View Post
I can't think of many people where I am now who would willingly make the trade for "big 3" pay if it meant losing the type of schedules we get. Insinuating that we're all underpaid unless we're following "big 3" or FedEx type rules is ludicrous.


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Old 04-02-2019, 07:42 PM
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Originally Posted by G550Guy View Post
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Could be all 3 simultaneously, but I definitely think he fits at least 2 of them.
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Old 04-03-2019, 05:51 AM
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Getting back to the initial idea though of 20 B737-800s.... where does Southern expect to find pilots for these airframes?

From my understanding they are having a hard enough time filling classes with their current fleet, let alone adding 20 more.
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Old 04-03-2019, 06:22 AM
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ABX, Atlas and Sourhern all display poor management. By keeping salaries low.....more bonuses. Good luck filling seats.
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Old 04-03-2019, 09:28 AM
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Originally Posted by filejw View Post
Your 100% right the trouble is when you don’t own your own content you lose lots of leverage. The company issuing the contract can just move said contract to someone else and will. Getting good leverage/ pressure on the DHL and Amazon types is the answer. The Delta FedEx contracts aren’t because the corporations are nice guys , if they could get away with paying pilots 50% less they would.
That’s the same argument made for decades in the regional industry; yet now they have no problem remaining profitable and paying new pilots $95k first year and retention bonus checks to stay.
We’ve been fed lies for so long that it’s now a common belief.

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Old 04-03-2019, 09:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Cujo665 View Post
That’s the same argument made for decades in the regional industry; yet now they have no problem remaining profitable and paying new pilots $95k first year.....
We’ve been fed lies for so long that it’s now a common belief.
First year pay is a pretty God d@mn short timeline when you're talking about a career move.

Sure, enjoy your 95K for the first year, only to see "your" flying shifted over to some other group a few years later.
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Old 04-03-2019, 09:37 AM
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Originally Posted by dogo View Post
ABX, Atlas and Sourhern all display poor management. By keeping salaries low.....more bonuses. Good luck filling seats.
Yet they still are training new hires.....same at ABX. For some the grass is always greener.
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Old 04-03-2019, 09:41 AM
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Originally Posted by zerozero View Post
First year pay is a pretty God d@mn short timeline when you're talking about a career move.

Sure, enjoy your 95K for the first year, only to see "your" flying shifted over to some other group a few years later.
You’re overlooking the retention bonus checks, and the quick upgrades. The point is that if they can do this now, they could have done this always.
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Old 04-03-2019, 11:09 AM
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I’ve flown with recent new hires at ABX. Downright scary. If we could get 50% who could communicate with ATC and not sound like a third world soap opera it wouldn’t be so bad, but..........
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Originally Posted by dogo View Post
I’ve flown with recent new hires at ABX. Downright scary. If we could get 50% who could communicate with ATC and not sound like a third world soap opera it wouldn’t be so bad, but..........
Same at atlas... might as well change our callsign to yiant.
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