What has Teamsters done for Atlas and ABX?
#21
i have many friends there and wish them the best
for 3 years now he has been cutting down K4 and its crews...without any real knowledge about us...you dont see that from other current or former Atlas folks...this is a tough business...negotiating is a full contact sport...we who were involved feel very good about what we accomplished in Dec 16'....why he has to constantly snipe at us from afar is baffling....like I said "living rent free inside his head"...lol
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Never mind a few Atlas posters who treat the cargo section as their personal venting forum, creating a new thread every time they can capitalize on bad news.
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Maybe they create new threads because the last one they created was infested with K4 guys looking for acceptance.
#25
The Kalitta guys handed 1224 their collective a$$es in spectacular fashion. If the Hairclub for men crowd at 1224 leadership had half the fight the Kalitta guys had the deserving Pilots at Atlas would have a contract. That's why a few of you run your yaps spreading misinformation. It has to still hurt when you can't quit bringing it up. You need to move on, They (Kalitta Pilots) have.
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absolutely no problem with that
i have many friends there and wish them the best
for 3 years now he has been cutting down K4 and its crews...without any real knowledge about us...you dont see that from other current or former Atlas folks...this is a tough business...negotiating is a full contact sport...we who were involved feel very good about what we accomplished in Dec 16'....why he has to constantly snipe at us from afar is baffling....like I said "living rent free inside his head"...lol
i have many friends there and wish them the best
for 3 years now he has been cutting down K4 and its crews...without any real knowledge about us...you dont see that from other current or former Atlas folks...this is a tough business...negotiating is a full contact sport...we who were involved feel very good about what we accomplished in Dec 16'....why he has to constantly snipe at us from afar is baffling....like I said "living rent free inside his head"...lol
Alpa is great. You have a terrible contract because yall voted yes on it. It was antiquated the day you voted for it. Once again, I have read every word of it. If you are as desperate for what ever scraps Connie throws you 6.5 years after your contract opens you'll get the same thing. The notion that he's going to be more pro labor now that you have Alpa is obsurd.
Also, knowing several leaders in the Atlas Union pilot group, strategy wouldn't change if they were Alpa, Independent, Teamsters or Bob's Pilot Union. They want to fight for an Industry Standard Contract. The only thing that would change if they were Alpa is that Alpa might pull the money from them for trying to fight like they did in the 2000s.
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I have read your contract. All of it. For the record the title of this thread is "What has Teamsters done for Atlas and ABX?" I was a very loyal union volunteer while at Atlas.
Alpa is great. You have a terrible contract because yall voted yes on it. It was antiquated the day you voted for it. Once again, I have read every word of it. If you are as desperate for what ever scraps Connie throws you 6.5 years after your contract opens you'll get the same thing. The notion that he's going to be more pro labor now that you have Alpa is obsurd.
Also, knowing several leaders in the Atlas Union pilot group, strategy wouldn't change if they were Alpa, Independent, Teamsters or Bob's Pilot Union. They want to fight for an Industry Standard Contract. The only thing that would change if they were Alpa is that Alpa might pull the money from them for trying to fight like they did in the 2000s.
Alpa is great. You have a terrible contract because yall voted yes on it. It was antiquated the day you voted for it. Once again, I have read every word of it. If you are as desperate for what ever scraps Connie throws you 6.5 years after your contract opens you'll get the same thing. The notion that he's going to be more pro labor now that you have Alpa is obsurd.
Also, knowing several leaders in the Atlas Union pilot group, strategy wouldn't change if they were Alpa, Independent, Teamsters or Bob's Pilot Union. They want to fight for an Industry Standard Contract. The only thing that would change if they were Alpa is that Alpa might pull the money from them for trying to fight like they did in the 2000s.
By your own admission above “ I have read your contract. All of it “
And you don’t even work there. Seems to validate their claim “to be living free inside your head. “
Either that or you need a hobby. Pronto.
Perhaps the K4 guys should call themselves -Masters of the GlobeMaster.
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