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Old 02-16-2020, 08:09 PM
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If you've got 1000 PIC when you go there I'd take either... The type you get will be attractive as long as you have the PIC and the degree to go with it.
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Old 02-16-2020, 08:20 PM
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I mean this with the utmost sincerity, but how do you know long haul international (for 15 days) is something you’d enjoy?
Have you done it? It’s fun, but it’s also crazy boring and mind-numbingly fatiguing when you’re not doing a simple United out and back to DUB from EWR. It’s rough on you. Add in a family or even a girlfriend to that mix, and it’s tough on people. 15 days on the road flying through 31 time zones isn’t healthy. You become a zombie. I’ve done it. For years.
Im not saying don’t go to Omni, have a buddy there, I’m just saying be realistic and don’t romanticize it.
Good point. I haven’t done it and shouldn’t romanticize it; I’m early 30s, unmarried and no kids. I have a girlfriend who lives in a different city. With my regional job I go longer than 16 days without seeing her, and when I do in fact see her it’s for 2 days max. 16 days gone at an ACMI won’t hurt any worse.

I’ve always imagined I’d enjoy long haul flying, see the world! you know? But I don’t know how I’d take to sitting 10hrs in a cockpit or if I’d find the fatigue worth the excitement.

The legacies are my goal. But I’d feel like I had a good career if it all ended for me at a great ACMI.
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Old 02-16-2020, 08:23 PM
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Originally Posted by EVVovernight View Post
Good point. I haven’t done it and shouldn’t romanticize it; I’m early 30s, unmarried and no kids. I have a girlfriend who lives in a different city. With my regional job I go longer than 16 days without seeing her, and when I do in fact see her it’s for 2 days max. 16 days gone at an ACMI won’t hurt any worse.

I’ve always imagined I’d enjoy long haul flying, see the world! you know? But I don’t know how I’d take to sitting 10hrs in a cockpit or if I’d find the fatigue worth the excitement.

The legacies are my goal. But I’d feel like I had a good career if it all ended for me at a great ACMI.
How many time zones you doing in the regional job.
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Old 02-17-2020, 05:18 AM
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How many time zones you doing in the regional job.
Before my current job my all time longest leg was 7:58 and that was an anomaly. Usually 2-5 hours. I never thought I would want to fly long haul and avoided it at my passenger carrier. Almost 10 years into long haul now and I don't find it that bad. Sleep when your tired. Eat when your hungry. Exercise when able. We normally don't stay in a time zone long enough to acclimate so I do OK. No one knows how it will be until they actually do it. Want to find out how our life is? Buy a few hotel rooms and go out and jumpseat a few trips.
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Are you 64 years old? Or did you hit your head?
No, and not sure, can't remember.

No interest in up and down four legs a day, no matter how good the paycheck. AA and UA bases suck. That leaves 3.
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Old 02-17-2020, 06:33 AM
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No, and not sure, can't remember.

No interest in up and down four legs a day, no matter how good the paycheck. AA and UA bases suck. That leaves 3.
Of course it’s subjective, I get that, but...
ORD DFW CLT MIA LAX IAD EWR SFO IAH DEN PHX GUM DCA BOS PHL JFK and LGA....
All of those suck?? That’s almost the entire country, just minus the PNW, from which SFO and LAX are very easy commutes.
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That’s almost the entire country
You live on a coast, don't you? The closest of those is a five hour drive, and is a festering social and political wound where it snows sideways. No thanks. CLT and DEN would have been fine fifteen years ago when you could afford a decent house...
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You live on a coast, don't you? The closest of those is a five hour drive, and is a festering social and political wound where it snows sideways. No thanks. CLT and DEN would have been fine fifteen years ago when you could afford a decent house...
I live in one of the above domiciles. Not because I love it, but because it’s a domicile, it doesn’t suck, and I drive to work. It’s a compromise I make. CLT is still extremely affordable. Especially if you’re willing to drive 1-2 hours.

And ORD DEN CLT PHX DFW are all pretty non-coastal.
Again, I get that it is all subjective, but just seems to say everyone of those places sucks puts you in a pretty small box. But who knows, maybe one day AA will open a Manhattan, KS domicile.

Good luck with your three remaining options. Sincerely, not sarcastically.
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Old 02-17-2020, 08:45 AM
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Good luck with your three remaining options. Sincerely, not sarcastically.
Thanks. And hey, a lot of people would take one look at where I live and sign a $4000 per month lease on a closet in San Francisco with enthusiasm. Different strokes, etc etc.
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Originally Posted by PotatoChip View Post
Of course it’s subjective, I get that, but...
ORD DFW CLT MIA LAX IAD EWR SFO IAH DEN PHX GUM DCA BOS PHL JFK and LGA....
All of those suck?? That’s almost the entire country, just minus the PNW, from which SFO and LAX are very easy commutes.
Simple answer, yes.
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