Search

Notices
Cargo Part 121 cargo airlines

FDX Disputed Pairings

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 05-17-2007 | 03:30 AM
  #11  
Line Holder
 
Joined: Aug 2006
Posts: 47
Likes: 0
Default

ok, did not know that.
Reply
Old 05-17-2007 | 03:37 AM
  #12  
Piloto Noche's Avatar
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined: Apr 2007
Posts: 193
Likes: 0
Default

Here's my question. If the pilots fly a DP month after month, does that mean the company can build pairings with identical parameters but to different cities and they can't be disputed? That would explain why cheap foreign hookers and disputed pairings seem to go hand in hand, i.e. Almaty and Campinas???
Reply
Old 05-17-2007 | 10:58 AM
  #13  
Line Holder
 
Joined: Feb 2007
Posts: 83
Likes: 0
Default

Originally Posted by CaptainMark
come on...because if they are not flown by reserves for a set time then those types of trips can be put in the bidpack and cannot be disputed again... then the company can put similar trips in the bidpack which cannot be disputed..if only reserves fly them then they go away...geez
Sorry to recover old ground but this is incorrect. Once a pairing is disputed, it will go thru the review process unless withdrawn by the union or resolved. The only time limit is that if a sequence has been flown by an aircraft type for 3 bid periods it can no longer be disputed. It has nothing to do with reserves flying the sequence...that is our MEC's recommendation for a show of support for the SIG. This isn't advocacy (although my opinion is well documented) just info which can be read in the contract.
Reply
Old 05-17-2007 | 10:59 AM
  #14  
Line Holder
 
Joined: Feb 2007
Posts: 83
Likes: 0
Default

Originally Posted by CaptainMark
come on...because if they are not flown by reserves for a set time then those types of trips can be put in the bidpack and cannot be disputed again... then the company can put similar trips in the bidpack which cannot be disputed..if only reserves fly them then they go away...geez
Sorry to recover old ground but this is incorrect. Once a pairing is disputed, it will go thru the review process unless withdrawn by the union or resolved. The only time limit is that if a sequence has been flown by an aircraft type for 3 bid periods it can no longer be disputed. It has nothing to do with reserves flying the sequence...that is our MEC's recommendation for a show of support for the SIG. This isn't advocacy (although my opinion is well documented) just info which can be read in the contract.
Reply
Old 05-17-2007 | 11:24 AM
  #15  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined: Aug 2006
Posts: 4,184
Likes: 0
From: leaning to the left
Default

Originally Posted by Open Mind
Sorry to recover old ground but this is incorrect. Once a pairing is disputed, it will go thru the review process unless withdrawn by the union or resolved. The only time limit is that if a sequence has been flown by an aircraft type for 3 bid periods it can no longer be disputed. It has nothing to do with reserves flying the sequence...that is our MEC's recommendation for a show of support for the SIG. This isn't advocacy (although my opinion is well documented) just info which can be read in the contract.
Have you been drug tested lately? You've got to be kidding me.

Please refer to Sec. 25.BB of the contract! It's very clear, concerning the resolution of disputed pairings. Try reading it.

25.BB.F.1.c. Additionally, if on a recurring basis, a pairing, disputed or not, appears in open time and is routinely avoided by pilots trip trading or eligible for make-up, OTP, etc., and therefore must be assigned to a reserve pilot, the above procedure shall apply, unless the Association elects to pursue the VP/MEC Chairman track instead.
Reply
Old 05-17-2007 | 11:50 AM
  #16  
CaptainMark's Avatar
Thread Starter
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined: Mar 2006
Posts: 967
Likes: 0
From: FDX A300 CPT
Default

Originally Posted by Open Mind
Sorry to recover old ground but this is incorrect. Once a pairing is disputed, it will go thru the review process unless withdrawn by the union or resolved. The only time limit is that if a sequence has been flown by an aircraft type for 3 bid periods it can no longer be disputed. It has nothing to do with reserves flying the sequence...that is our MEC's recommendation for a show of support for the SIG. This isn't advocacy (although my opinion is well documented) just info which can be read in the contract.

WRONG!!!!!
Reply
Old 05-17-2007 | 11:51 AM
  #17  
CaptainMark's Avatar
Thread Starter
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined: Mar 2006
Posts: 967
Likes: 0
From: FDX A300 CPT
Default

Originally Posted by Open Mind
Sorry to recover old ground but this is incorrect. Once a pairing is disputed, it will go thru the review process unless withdrawn by the union or resolved. The only time limit is that if a sequence has been flown by an aircraft type for 3 bid periods it can no longer be disputed. It has nothing to do with reserves flying the sequence...that is our MEC's recommendation for a show of support for the SIG. This isn't advocacy (although my opinion is well documented) just info which can be read in the contract.

WRONG!!!!!!!


is 2x good enough?
Reply
Old 05-17-2007 | 12:14 PM
  #18  
KAFTKTA's Avatar
Line Holder
 
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 65
Likes: 0
From: B-777 F/O
Default

Maybe in addition to a jeppesen sized scab list the MEC should send out a DP offender list. (maybe 3 strikes and you're forever on the list.)
Reply
Old 05-17-2007 | 12:26 PM
  #19  
Line Holder
 
Joined: Feb 2007
Posts: 83
Likes: 0
Default

Originally Posted by CaptainMark
WRONG!!!!!!!


is 2x good enough?
Yes, I've been drug tested, Thank you for asking!!! The procedure referred to, is the review process. This isn't a silver bullet, you are free to think whatever you like but your answer that I quoted was incorrect.
Reply
Old 05-17-2007 | 01:04 PM
  #20  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined: Aug 2006
Posts: 4,184
Likes: 0
From: leaning to the left
Default

Opened mind,

You are also free to think whatever you like. But, don't spread this kind of crap around, as if it is true.

Originally Posted by Open Mind
... It has nothing to do with reserves flying the sequence...that is our MEC's recommendation for a show of support for the SIG. ...
This is a complete bunch of bullsh!t.

It has everything to do with reserves having to fly the DP's!! Leave the DP's in open time, and the company must allow the disputed pairing to go through the review process. And, then it might be changed.

Last edited by Busboy; 05-17-2007 at 01:31 PM. Reason: more accuracy
Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
TonyC
Cargo
84
05-04-2007 06:32 AM
boxhauler
Cargo
100
04-16-2007 06:58 AM
Dog Breath
Cargo
23
03-18-2007 08:32 AM
MD11Fr8Dog
Cargo
272
03-06-2007 12:51 PM
trashhauler
Cargo
10
02-15-2007 07:09 AM

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On



Your Privacy Choices