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Old 03-20-2020, 11:23 AM
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Originally Posted by climb150 View Post
Can a pax 777/787 or 767 make money just carrying belly freight?

I am only proposing this as freight rates are rising dramatically and airlines have a lot of wide bodies sitting around.
Realize, right now it's not so much about making money as lessening the loss. I *suspect* that a belly full of freight is less loss right now than just parking the airplane and paying the lease.

On the other hand, I seriously doubt any of us have the data to actually crunch the numbers for a given aircraft at a given company...
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Old 03-21-2020, 03:39 AM
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On the other hand, I seriously doubt any of us have the data to actually crunch the numbers for a given aircraft at a given company...
Pffft......... Never stopped anyone here before.
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Pffft......... Never stopped anyone here before.
Lol...true dat...
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Old 03-22-2020, 04:04 PM
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Pull the seats, fill the main deck as well (temporarily)during this crisis. Not a full conversion. Can’t be rocket science...
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Old 03-22-2020, 04:07 PM
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Pull the seats, fill the main deck as well. Can’t be rocket science...
ATSG probably still has some of those little C containers that Airborne used for sliding in the passenger entry doors....
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Old 03-22-2020, 04:11 PM
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Originally Posted by goinaround View Post
ATSG probably still has some of those little C containers that Airborne used for sliding in the passenger entry doors....
Fantastic, now you’re making $$$ - See, you have the answer ^^^^^^^^This!
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Old 03-23-2020, 01:33 PM
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Pull the seats, fill the main deck as well (temporarily)during this crisis. Not a full conversion. Can’t be rocket science...
Apparently you are unfamiliar with the FAA directives for securing main deck cargo.
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Apparently you are unfamiliar with the FAA directives for securing main deck cargo.
What could possibly go wrong?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nati...nes_Flight_102
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Originally Posted by Packrat View Post
Apparently you are unfamiliar with the FAA directives for securing main deck cargo.
There are/were minor conversions that can be done as mentioned before, not requiring full cargo cutout conversions.

Regarding National which was very very unfortunate, I am very aware of requirements having flown the same type of cargo in/out of the very same air base using the same type of civilian aircraft as well as military initially. Very tragic.

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Old 03-31-2020, 11:14 PM
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Oh yeah, don’t pull the seats even easier. No worries at all now, unless their lithium batteries, NOTOC, etc. - doh!
Now- Lufthansa and others have cargo across the rows of seats on an Airbus with nets, etc. Just looking for ingenuity like this from smart people making it happen rather than sitting on the sidelines. Now that’s people getting it done, wonder what the FAA thinks about that. Nah, ICAO right - whatever. Good for them!

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=...9NdzMAUg1nVgYW

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