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Old 05-26-2007 | 11:05 AM
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Originally Posted by ABK MAN
I was under the impression that they were indeed just as much on the line as the crew. They get to do famflights, which i thought was mandatory . . .

The FAA can take my ticket, not so for GOC folks.
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Old 05-26-2007 | 11:32 AM
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ahh, and why can't the FAA take their ticket?
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Old 05-26-2007 | 11:54 AM
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Originally Posted by ABK MAN
ahh, and why can't the FAA take their ticket?
Because they are not working in an a job as real dispatchers, though they may be doing essentially the same job. So, if there is no jeopardy for them when screwing up, like there is for a pilot, how careful/safe do you think they are going to be? Not saying they would intentionally do anything, but if you are putting your ticket on the line everytime you sign a release.....
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Old 05-26-2007 | 12:25 PM
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Originally Posted by MD11Fr8Dog
Because they are not working in an a job as real dispatchers, though they may be doing essentially the same job. So, if there is no jeopardy for them when screwing up, like there is for a pilot, how careful/safe do you think they are going to be? Not saying they would intentionally do anything, but if you are putting your ticket on the line everytime you sign a release.....
That's why I think the Flag status would be better.
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Old 05-26-2007 | 12:50 PM
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Originally Posted by HazCan
That's why I think the Flag status would be better.

UPS, like FedEx, is technically considered a Supplemental Carrier (like all cargo carriers). Supplemental Carriers are all (normally) required to declare an alternate on every flight, regardless of the destination weather. However, UPS got a waiver many years ago to operate under the Domestic/Flag rules (I thought FedEx also got this waiver, but from the posts here, I guess that's not the case). We, like all Domestic/Flag carriers, have not been required to declare an alternate airport since we got this waiver, as long as the destination weather is above 1000 & 2 (yes, we also got a waiver from the 2000 & 3 requirement). The waiver to operate under Domestic/Flag rules also requires that we have licensed dispatchers, whose tickets are always on the line. It seems to work pretty well. Occassionally, we have to prompt the dispatchers for more fuel, but they seem to do a pretty good job of watching out for us.

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Old 05-30-2007 | 06:53 PM
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everyone see the new FCIF....my crystal ball works well...
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Old 05-31-2007 | 02:17 PM
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everyone see the new FCIF....my crystal ball works well...
Still lots of questions, though. For instance, will the "Association Input" come from ProStan or direct from the MEC? (... "recent polling indicates ...")
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Old 05-31-2007 | 03:58 PM
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everyone see the new FCIF....my crystal ball works well...

Your Ball is busted most of the time.
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Old 05-31-2007 | 06:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Jetjok
So I guess that good old Bill McKelvy was right all along. He changed the cost index so many times, the company finally published that FCIF telling us to leave the damn thing alone. The understanding was always it was a balance between time vs. fuel. With the cost of fuel these days, maybe the company is planning on shorter hub turns or earlier departures and arrivals, in order to both save fuel and at the same time, make delivery. Should be an interesting balancing act, but I just can't envision flight plans much above FL 370, as the high and low speed margins get real close together, way up there.
I hear it's going to be awesome! Cruising in at .75 mach or less...drifting down...and falling in line for a 40 mile downwind/final at 150KTS blowing out 18K an hour in the pattern.

Can't wait to see:

A. How many will really participate, especially outbound to the hotel
B. How bad our samedaylates become
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Old 05-31-2007 | 07:30 PM
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The GOC guys mean well, but are generally clueless. I think they lack significant situational awareness because we bail them out by adding fuel.

Couple weeks ago we got relesed mem-den (MD10)with 19K FAT at Den. 5K ALT fuel for COS. Forecast for both Den and Cos had isolated showers. We added 5K and barely made it to Denver.

Those isolated showers roll off the mountains and reform over DIA every afternoon. What looks ok on paper is often far from reality.

Just like NQA, if there is convective crap in Denver there is a chance there will be a cell sitting on top of KCOS.

These guy will flight plan you into a box if you let them!
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