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Old 06-05-2007 | 06:14 PM
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I know of bunch of Purple guys from my Guard unit, but no dice on Brownies.

I'm a USAF Guard guy, and fly the Bus for Frontier now. I actually meet the transoceanic requirement, but need a few hundred more PIC hours, so this is a request to get to know some of you Brown pilots now so when the time comes I'll have an in.

And, yes, I realize this is a stretch, but... if you don't ask...


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Old 06-06-2007 | 11:48 AM
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What did you vote on that last contract at F9?
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Old 06-06-2007 | 01:06 PM
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Originally Posted by wordfliesnverted
I know of bunch of Purple guys from my Guard unit, but no dice on Brownies.

I'm a USAF Guard guy, and fly the Bus for Frontier now. I actually meet the transoceanic requirement, but need a few hundred more PIC hours, so this is a request to get to know some of you Brown pilots now so when the time comes I'll have an in.

And, yes, I realize this is a stretch, but... if you don't ask...


Thanks,
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Unfortunately, if you haven't flown with the individual making the rec, UPS doesn't accept it. Maybe if you ask around at your unit, the other guys mightknow someone that knows you.

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Old 06-06-2007 | 03:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Trash Hauler 1
Unfortunately, if you haven't flown with the individual making the rec, UPS doesn't accept it. Maybe if you ask around at your unit, the other guys mightknow someone that knows you.

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The guy who recommended me at 5X never flown with me, and that was the first thing I told them when they brought up the rec during the interview.

guess what I am wearing now?

So that's not true.
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Old 06-06-2007 | 03:58 PM
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Originally Posted by wordfliesnverted
I'm a USAF Guard guy, and fly the Bus for Frontier now. I actually meet the transoceanic requirement, but need a fw hundred more PIC hours, so this is a request to get to know some of you Brown pilots now so when the time comes I'll have an in.
Word,

I'm more inclined to agree with Trash Hauler's post than N570UP's....unless maybe a boxhead recommended N570UP....and that is great. A rec from a boxhead manager definitely carries a lot of weight.

The recommendation process at Brown is set up for employees to submit them online at the company website. The pilot rec form is about seven pages long, with numerous questions about the potential employee that must be answered in a short essay format. The pure length of the recommendation is enough to discourage any Brown pilot from submitting one for a casual acquaintance. The questions ask in detail about the person's character, leadership qualities, flying qualities, and how/where you flew with the potential employee. It also asks how many recs you have submitted, for whom, and what is the status of that person. It is set up so a pilot can't just write that Joe Blow is a good guy, and is a friend of a friend that flew at the same military base as me 10 years ago. The person recommending you really has to know you, and must have flown with you.

I was told by a management pilot friend that the rec will not help you in the least getting asked to the interview, but they will mean a lot once you are sitting there in the interview @ SDF.

Good luck to you.
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Old 06-06-2007 | 04:03 PM
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Old 06-06-2007 | 05:00 PM
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Word,

I'm more inclined to agree with Trash Hauler's post than N570UP's....unless maybe a boxhead recommended N570UP....and that is great. A rec from a boxhead manager definitely carries a lot of weight.

The recommendation process at Brown is set up for employees to submit them online at the company website. The pilot rec form is about seven pages long, with numerous questions about the potential employee that must be answered in a short essay format. The pure length of the recommendation is enough to discourage any Brown pilot from submitting one for a casual acquaintance. The questions ask in detail about the person's character, leadership qualities, flying qualities, and how/where you flew with the potential employee. It also asks how many recs you have submitted, for whom, and what is the status of that person. It is set up so a pilot can't just write that Joe Blow is a good guy, and is a friend of a friend that flew at the same military base as me 10 years ago. The person recommending you really has to know you, and must have flown with you.

I was told by a management pilot friend that the rec will not help you in the least getting asked to the interview, but they will mean a lot once you are sitting there in the interview @ SDF.

Good luck to you.
What the heck is a boxhead?

And no, he isn't management!
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Old 06-06-2007 | 05:30 PM
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The recommendation will carry a lot more weight from someone who knows you... just a suggestion.
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Old 06-06-2007 | 05:43 PM
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Originally Posted by N570UP
The guy who recommended me at 5X never flown with me, and that was the first thing I told them when they brought up the rec during the interview.

guess what I am wearing now?

So that's not true.
Sorry to bust your bubble. According to the folks in charge, if you havn't actually flown with the rec-ee, it doesn't count. So, if you got hired here, you did it without the benefit of that rec from the dude you never flew with. Check with Phil, et al if you don't believe me.

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Old 06-06-2007 | 05:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Trash Hauler 1
Check with Phil, et al if you don't believe me.
I am not that motivated. yawwwwnnnnn
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