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Old 07-15-2007 | 11:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Lippy
59% will favor.

41% will oppose.

70% will vote.
70% Vote! This is an LOA, not a contract, I'll be happy if over 2500 vote! And if all the naysayers spread the word about how bad this LOA really is then it won't pass. There are to many short comings, like in EVERY SECTION.

The company knows it only needs a couple dozen guys in each seat to fill these spots and the LOA specifically targets a certain demographic pilot...the young single and older empty nesters. Those are the ONLY ones that can actually make this kind of move or bid either FDA.

BUT, don't think this LOA doesn't effect EVERYONE on property. It might not right now but sooner or later, somewhere down the road it will be a player in your career. So if we are going to do this lets do it right from the get go and not have to worry about it later on.

I'm still voting NO until at LEAST an average COLA is paid and SVT is completely removed!
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Old 07-15-2007 | 11:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Lippy
59% will favor.

41% will oppose.

70% will vote.
Hopefully the guys who are too lazy to actually read the LOA are also too lazy to vote.
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Old 07-15-2007 | 11:56 PM
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Guys,

When is E.I.'s opinion coming out? Been waitin' for ever for this, but no word yet. Anybody know?
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Old 07-16-2007 | 03:06 AM
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Originally Posted by PurpleTail

The company knows it only needs a couple dozen guys in each seat to fill these spots and the LOA specifically targets a certain demographic pilot...the young single and older empty nesters. Those are the ONLY ones that can actually make this kind of move or bid either FDA.

Who can make a 500lb move? My overnight bag was 41 lbs when I checked it the other day. I would like to think I could bring more than 12 times that much for a couple of years!! How could anyone vote yes when somebody intentionally insults them like that?
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Old 07-16-2007 | 03:25 AM
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Originally Posted by MAWK90
Guys,

When is E.I.'s opinion coming out? Been waitin' for ever for this, but no word yet. Anybody know?
I might have missed it. But, I'm still waiting on the "Lessons Learned" email we were promised from last negotiations. I personally think that management and/or the union leadership do not want it shared how truly effective it was last Jun/Jul when guys started posting(on this site) the trip details every time they were offered a draft trip. I think it truly kept the wh0res and check guys from sneaking around and flying these lines without repurcussions.

Perhaps, if the union aknowledges what is specifically written on a public message board, they open themselves up to future litigation and responsibility for posts on that message board? What do ya think?
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Old 07-16-2007 | 03:30 AM
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I'm with Lippy. I think he is probably spot on. Which sucks by the way.

Last Capt I talked to said if the MEC said yes then he was just going to vote yes. When I asked him about STV, he did not even know what it was and asked me if I was sure that was in the final LOA proposal. Like I saw a preliminary one?

His ignorance amazed me. I guess I have to give him some credit to be willing to vote, even if he is going to rubber stamp the MEC without even reading the LOA and actually thinking what he is voting on.
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Old 07-16-2007 | 04:09 AM
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Originally Posted by PurpleTail
And if all the naysayers spread the word about how bad this LOA really is then it won't pass.
Then you better start stuffing mailboxes, because you're only getting to about 150 here.
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Old 07-16-2007 | 04:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Bitme
Then you better start stuffing mailboxes, because you're only getting to about 150 here.
Well, sort of. I read the stuff here and it gives me more to talk about in the crewroom. Often, I find people who say they read this stuff but never post.
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Old 07-16-2007 | 05:50 AM
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I'm a frequent reader, first time contributor. . .I'll vote NO. And I spread the word.

Can we hand out hand bills at work?
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Old 07-16-2007 | 06:25 AM
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This whole LOA stinks and is way short in most areas. It's time for the company to step up to the plate and make an LOA we can live with. It's all about the money and this company can afford to do the right thing for this pilot group. How can I vote yes on this when FO's will be living on food stamps ?
Big NO here.

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