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Old 11-15-2007, 01:00 PM
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Great open letter ad in today's USA Today, p. 8A by APA to airline passengers. Addresses safety issues of fatigue and raising the retirement age. Couldn't find a good link but here's their press release. White House switchboard is 202-456-1414 and the comment line is 202-456-1111.

ALLIED PILOTS ASSOCIATION URGES PRESIDENT BUSH TO VETO SPENDING BILL, PRESERVE AGE 60 RETIREMENT FOR AIRLINE PILOTS

Fort Worth, Texas (November 13, 2007)—The Allied Pilots Association (APA), representing the 12,000 pilots of American Airlines (NYSE: AMR), is urging President Bush to follow through with his stated intention of vetoing a transportation appropriations bill.
The spending bill includes language that would raise airline pilot retirement age to 65 from the current age 60 standard. Congress is expected to pass the bill sometime this week. The legislation will then go to the White House for final approval.
“By an overwhelming majority, our pilots support keeping retirement at age 60,” said APA President Captain Lloyd Hill. “They support the current mandatory retirement age based on numerous safety concerns, foremost among them pilot fatigue.”
Hill pointed out that the National Transportation Safety Board has linked pilot fatigue to 10 commercial aviation accidents since 1993 that killed 260 people. He also noted that the issue of pilot fatigue has generated significant public attention recently. An article in the Nov. 7, 2007 issue of USA Today reported that fatigue led hundreds of pilots, mechanics and air traffic controllers to make mistakes on the job, including six cases where pilots fell asleep in mid-flight. Pilots acknowledged that they “flew to the wrong altitude, botched landings and missed radio calls.”
Hill added that research by the Aerospace Medical Association has shown that older pilots have greater difficulty dealing with the physical demands of overnight flying and long flights across multiple time zones. The Federal Aviation Administration has conceded that older pilots’ accumulated experience does not compensate for the impact of fatigue on their performance.
“President Bush has cited cost concerns as the reason behind his plans to veto the transportation appropriations bill,” Hill said. “We agree the bill would prove costly—but not just in dollars and cents.”
APA plans to run newspaper advertising later this week that calls on airline passengers to make their voices heard. The union will recommend that travelers contact the White House to urge President Bush to follow through with his veto plans.
“We will let our passengers know that for safety’s sake, it’s the right thing to do,” he said.

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Old 11-15-2007, 01:05 PM
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Yes, a union with some stones and leadership.

Imagine if ALPA stood tall alongside our comrades at AA.

Now we'll never know.

Thank you APA for "doing the right thing"

Anybody in Herndon listening?
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APA must not have heard about the "runaway train"? Shhh ... it's an ALPA secret!
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Old 11-15-2007, 07:24 PM
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Yeah, maybe they don't have NMB on retainer like ALPA and our MEC must have.
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Old 11-16-2007, 04:16 AM
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For the speed readers who want the Cliff notes. The number to call and encourge a veto is:
202-456-1111
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Just called. Requested to veto the trans bill. Took 30 seconds. If you are for age 65 it takes all day and you should call back Thusday 22 Nov.
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Old 11-16-2007, 11:36 AM
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Read it. Shortly after, during a hub turn.. Heard some older dude *****ing about it... "Of course, they don't want it to change. They are the only airline that didn't cash in on their pilot's retirement.." All I could think was what an ass! So I need to call the union because apparently FEDEX took away our retirements!

Then he started ranting about how if he could pass a medical, how he should be allowed to continue as a WIDE-BODY Captain...
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Old 11-16-2007, 11:49 AM
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Originally Posted by viperdriver View Post
Just called. Requested to veto the trans bill. Took 30 seconds. If you are for age 65 it takes all day and you should call back Thusday 22 Nov.
Way funny...those opposing the veto are automatically enrolled in the Reid/Pelosi/Clinton health care program. First order of business--a no-notice First Class Medical exam. Nurse Ratchett is ready!
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Old 11-16-2007, 12:06 PM
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Thanks again APA for following the desires of your membership! (What a concept!)

Make the call and secure your upgrade if you are an FO.

Tell your friends who don't visit this site.

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I have to disagree with you guys. The APA is fear mongering to the flying public instead of addressing their real concern with the change to Age 60. If fatigue were the real issue, they would and should be pushing for stricter crew rest and duty regulations or more stringent medical requirements to keep those that are unfit out of the cockpit. This is all about money and career progression masked in a banner of concern for passenger safety.
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