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Old 11-16-2007, 12:23 PM
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Just left my request to veto the bill. Thank you for posting the phone #.

My reason: Apply the age vs. experience issue to medicine. Suppose you have just been informed that you need major open heart surgery. Your primary care physician recommends a doctor who is 45 years old. He is a graduate from a renouned medical university and has 15 years of experience since graduating from med school. Are you going to say, "No way - I want an older doctor" So I guess the best heart doctors are the ones who are 90 years old and graduated from med school in 1942? Would you put your life in the hands of a doctor 90 year old doctor? Well, he has the most experience, right?

There is a limit to the tradeoff between experience and age, and in aviaiton, that limit should be 60.

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Old 11-16-2007, 01:06 PM
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.... This is all about money and career progression masked in a banner of concern for passenger safety.
I guess ALPA's misguided stance has absolutely nothing to do with money.
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Old 11-16-2007, 01:48 PM
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I guess ALPA's misguided stance has absolutely nothing to do with money.

or APAAD's?
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Old 11-16-2007, 03:08 PM
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Originally Posted by RockyTopFlyer View Post
I guess ALPA's misguided stance has absolutely nothing to do with money.
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or APAAD's?
No doubt. It's about money, and not safety, no matter which side of the argument you're on. I just get a little tired of the juvenile name calling from some of the anti-65 crowd when there motivation is just as self-centered. I personally don't care that much one way or the other. I want to retire at 60 (or earlier) and just hope that any change to the rule will not penalize a "normal" retirement. But who knows, maybe when I'm in my 50's I may decide I'm not ready to retire. The hypocrites and whiners just wear on me after a while.
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Old 11-16-2007, 03:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Rottweiler View Post
Just left my request to veto the bill. Thank you for posting the phone #.

My reason: Apply the age vs. experience issue to medicine. Suppose you have just been informed that you need major open heart surgery. Your primary care physician recommends a doctor who is 45 years old. He is a graduate from a renouned medical university and has 15 years of experience since graduating from med school. Are you going to say, "No way - I want an older doctor" So I guess the best heart doctors are the ones who are 90 years old and graduated from med school in 1942? Would you put your life in the hands of a doctor 90 year old doctor? Well, he has the most experience, right?

There is a limit to the tradeoff between experience and age, and in aviaiton, that limit should be 60.

Rott.
OK. Here is another take on your argument. You lose your hand in an accident an you need it reattached. The top hand surgeons in the world are Dr. Joeseph Kutz and Dr. Harold Kleinert. They are the ones that led the U.S. team that has performed the only long term successful hand transplants and pioneered reattachment of severed arms and hands.
Dr. Kutz is in his early 70's and Dr. Kleinert....he graduated Temple Medical School back in 1946, so you can guess how old he is. Sure there is a tradeoff with age, and it's different for different people. I just don't think you are the expert to decide what that age is.
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Old 11-16-2007, 03:53 PM
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It isn't about just us calling this number. Send it to your friends and family. Then have them send it to their friends and so on and so on...just like the Vidal Sasson commercial...
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Old 11-16-2007, 05:58 PM
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No doubt. It's about money, and not safety, no matter which side of the argument you're on. I just get a little tired of the juvenile name calling from some of the anti-65 crowd when there motivation is just as self-centered. I personally don't care that much one way or the other. I want to retire at 60 (or earlier) and just hope that any change to the rule will not penalize a "normal" retirement. But who knows, maybe when I'm in my 50's I may decide I'm not ready to retire. The hypocrites and whiners just wear on me after a while.
Exactly; well said.
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Old 11-16-2007, 06:27 PM
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and so on, and so on
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Old 11-16-2007, 09:07 PM
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The hypocrites are the pro-65 guys who claim that this is a moral/civil rights issue when they have never stood up in defense of any other political/social cause there whole life. I have never heard a single pro-65 guy tell me about their last congressional letter writing campaign or march other than this particularly self serving issue.
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Old 11-16-2007, 10:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Jaxman187 View Post
The hypocrites are the pro-65 guys who claim that this is a moral/civil rights issue when they have never stood up in defense of any other political/social cause there whole life. I have never heard a single pro-65 guy tell me about their last congressional letter writing campaign or march other than this particularly self serving issue.
Wow! That must have taken years for you to interview all the pro-65 crowd. I'd be interested in seeing your data and analysis published. Pretty broad brush you are using. I'm would be willing to bet there are plenty of pro-65 pilots that served honorably in the military. Wouldn't that qualify as "standing up in the defense of a political cause?" Maybe they just don't stand up for causes that are in perfect allignment with your own and that's what you really have a problem with.
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