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Old 12-06-2007 | 08:46 AM
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Originally Posted by fr8rcaptain
Hey, here's some news!

We normally don't do any training or hiring during December. We trained and hired through last December, no problem...

As of this week, the new hires on the MD are getting up to one month off between the fixed based sim portion of training, and the full motion beasts in SDF, ATL, or soon to be MIA and Montreal.

We are VERY short FOs in the SDF MD base....

So, in a nutshell, the training center pipeline is jammed, another realignment bid is coming out in six weeks (the senior 747 classic guys will move to other jets, and everyone hired after 9/06 will be forced to ANC), which will only jam up the limited resources of the training center some more....

We're still very short FOs in SDF....

Don't expect us to begin hiring in earnest for a while again.

We're still very short FOs in SDF....
"everyone hired after 9/06 will be forced to ANC." and your source is?
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Old 12-06-2007 | 10:35 AM
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Originally Posted by TOPDOG
"everyone hired after 9/06 will be forced to ANC." and your source is?
I don't see it. There's what, about 60 more 747 front end guys to move around? Before the last realignment bid, there were almost 200 pilots in the lower 48 hired since 9/06.
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Old 12-06-2007 | 11:57 AM
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Originally Posted by FliFast

Brownwhalerider, I don't doubt when you say that managment pilot/insctructors are calling in sick because of their overworked status. A couple I've talked to said they are going to "give it till the first of the year" then pull the ripcord and go elsewhere.

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That would be great if we actually had management guys quitting left and right.

On another note, did y'all see the MRB on Military Leave? It kind of made me laugh...."try to schedule your mil leave on days off" LMAO! Uh, ok UPS, why don't you raise first year pay? LOL!
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Old 12-06-2007 | 12:44 PM
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Originally Posted by TOPDOG
"everyone hired after 9/06 will be forced to ANC." and your source is?
I believe his entire post was filled with sarcasm.
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Old 12-06-2007 | 03:52 PM
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I got the sarcasm in his. I just didn't want to quote the whole thing again from fr8cap'n.
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Old 12-06-2007 | 04:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Freightpuppy
On another note, did y'all see the MRB on Military Leave? It kind of made me laugh...."try to schedule your mil leave on days off" LMAO! Uh, ok UPS, why don't you raise first year pay? LOL!
Good point! M, congrats on the kid!
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Old 12-07-2007 | 07:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Swedish Blender
I got the sarcasm in his. I just didn't want to quote the whole thing again from fr8cap'n.
I messed up with my quoting, I meant that fr8capt was all sarcasm.
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Old 12-07-2007 | 01:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Rocco
If you think were short now...wait till Fall 08 when we start getting a new 767 every month for the next couple of years
The last info I've seen that UPS published doesn't agree.

767's: 3 in 2009, 6 in 2010, 12 in 2011, and 6 in 2012.

The DC-8 will be retired beginning in 2010 and ending in 2013
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Old 12-07-2007 | 02:54 PM
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Those 767 are coming in the FALL of 2009. I dont see hiring until summer 2009. With or without the age 60 thing. We are technically shrinking this year and next. We parked 15 or so 727. Parking approx. 12 747's. And some DC-8's. And Three man crews to two. Plus ANC and the IRO's. It going to be all Realignment bids, not Vacancy bids.

I hope I'm wrong.
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Old 12-07-2007 | 04:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Roberto
The last info I've seen that UPS published doesn't agree.

767's: 3 in 2009, 6 in 2010, 12 in 2011, and 6 in 2012.

The DC-8 will be retired beginning in 2010 and ending in 2013
How many JA calls do you get as a SO on the 8?
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