UPS & FedEx Upgrades will be atleast 7 more years!
12-16-2007 | 05:37 PM
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That's the problem that hit us with our hourly rates and it will probably hit us again when our turn for a foreign domicile comes up. From here on out, improvements at each property will be incremental and not monumental.
12-16-2007 | 05:57 PM
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I agree with your future outlook, though.
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12-16-2007 | 06:02 PM
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We've made some pretty great strides from where we started out to get to where we are now including tripling pay and starting an A plan. Admittedly, a lot of that was just to catch up to FDX, but now that we are basically neck and neck, the quantum leaps are over. We used to get 20 to 30% raises each time, from here on we'll be looking at more like 3 to 4% increases.
12-16-2007 | 07:52 PM
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We've made some pretty great strides from where we started out to get to where we are now including tripling pay and starting an A plan. Admittedly, a lot of that was just to catch up to FDX, but now that we are basically neck and neck, the quantum leaps are over. We used to get 20 to 30% raises each time, from here on we'll be looking at more like 3 to 4% increases.
That's just me and Prozac makes me sooo happy...Y'all need to try it too!
12-16-2007 | 10:15 PM
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It will not be an additional 5 years but more like 8 years add to your time to upgrade. Why, because with the retreads coming back into the front seat. This will take any new growth the company has and could add the extra 3 or more years to the obvious 5 years. With UPS having 80 or so under 63 years of age it might take 3 years longer than the face value of the 5 year upgrade hit. If I was looking into UPS or FedEx I would give this some serious thought before leaving my job to fly for them. Bottom line at UPS, expect new hires upgrading in 18 years. 
10 years + 5 years (65 Change) + 3 years (Retreads)= 18 years
10 years + 5 years (65 Change) + 3 years (Retreads)= 18 years
12-16-2007 | 11:08 PM
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It will not be an additional 5 years but more like 8 years add to your time to upgrade. Why, because with the retreads coming back into the front seat. This will take any new growth the company has and could add the extra 3 or more years to the obvious 5 years. With UPS having 80 or so under 63 years of age it might take 3 years longer than the face value of the 5 year upgrade hit. If I was looking into UPS or FedEx I would give this some serious thought before leaving my job to fly for them. Bottom line at UPS, expect new hires upgrading in 18 years.
10 years + 5 years (65 Change) + 3 years (Retreads)= 18 years
10 years + 5 years (65 Change) + 3 years (Retreads)= 18 years
12-16-2007 | 11:52 PM
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12-17-2007 | 07:14 AM
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This is just an number that has been calculated by historical data at UPS. Since you don't work for the company it's kind of hard for someone to understand.
Historically it has taken an average of ten years to upgrade at UPS. Exception to this is the pilots that have been hired at the beginning of a big hiring spree. With the FO's doing IRO flying at UPS, Captain growth has slowed, "You would know this if you worked here."
UPS has over 80 SO or FE that will be able to move back to the front seat. This could take up three years of new Captain slots.
NO NEW retirements for five years.
Tell me how I am the idiot?
Put something down with merit or shut up.
Pilots still might be able to upgrade if they take ANC or a new overseas domicile, like Paris.
BTW- Rulling is spelled Ruling. Only one l.
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