FliFast

We have Capts at UPS that have over 10 years in type and are buffoons ?????????

Any suggestions you have for our UPS Capts ?

What does "twoop" mean, I just learned what "Load complete" means.

Sorry for being green at all this stuff,

FF

III Corps

Reportedly the up/down switch position was the reason the L-1011 had push to engage/push to disengage switches, the first of its kind. Eastern and TWA were launch customers and on one, UP was OFF and on the other UP was ON. Lockheed didn't want to deal with all that so they came up with the push buttons.

As I remember, at PI, up was ON and down was OFF. I could be wrong.

I really enjoyed the 727. We had some -100s and I thought the offset column was a bit odd but I really enjoyed the -200, especially those with the -15 engines. I didn't fly the line with the -17 or the re-engined 727s with the JT8D-200 series engine but did get to fly a -100 with re-engined -207s on the pods and a -200 with re-engined -217s on the pod. Essentially it added a 4th engine to the airplane and it was easy to push the 727 out of the top of its envelope.

We were able to fly most of the time in the A mode on our -200s and so we let it rip. I can recall going into SJU and doing over 400 indicated... not bad for an airliner. Of course, we couldn't talk because of the noise but it was FUN.

And yes, PROTECT ESSENTIAL!!

bifff15

As a new wingman in a fighter squadron those are the only things you are allowed to say on the radio. Generally more SA will arrive into your ears than will come out of your mouth. Twoop is long for TWO and denotes your wingman status. Wingmen are even numbers, leads are odd numbers. Some wingmen can be flight leads, while all flight leads can be wingmen.
The newest wingie usually fly's in the number two spot with the most experienced flight lead / IP.

Twoop = status as a wingman for this flight

Mayday = an allowable statement to be used only if death or crashing is imminent

Lead you're on fire = This is the third thing you are allowed to say and you had better be right

Bingo = denotes you are out of gas and need to go home. Depending on the situation you might be sent home alone which is punishment of and unto itself. Good fighter pilots can keep it up as long as required to do the job.

I've got mine = the long way of saying you have your targeting responsibility and you had better be right!

You take the fat one = what the flight lead says to the wingman when targeting a two ship and one of the two is "heavy". Divide and conquer. Take a spear for the team. One day if he does well he will become the flight lead and get to "assign" duties too!

Jetjok

Obviously not that green if you're passing judgment on captains with over "10 years in type." Imagine all the stuff you must be missing while you're overseeing your captains.

FliFast

JetJok,

Obviously I am , if I am asking another poster what and why his recent Capt did to display buffonery

Just the messenger my friend, re-read the above post if you're still confused.

As an old wiseman once said....."C'mon Man, YOU CAN'T BE SERIOUS....."
circa John McEnroe.

FF

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Biff, thanks for the explanations...my head hurts already !

FliFast

Neat stuff, especially at 400 kias. I can only bet the crickets were singing in the background.

FF

Jetjok

FliFast,

Sorry if I misread your above post, as I guess you're asking the above as a question, and not as I had initially interpreted it, as a statement. If it were a question, then Yes, there is probably a UPS captain or two who could be called a buffoon, just based on the old 10% rule. No different than any other airline.

JJ

III Corps

Nope.. ours could operate in the 'A' mode (when ZFW was not greater than 136k or takeoff greater than 176k.. why the heck do I still remember that???) or the "B" mode. In the "A" mode, Vmo was over 400...around 405 or 410. As I remember, the "B" mode was around 358.

We used to do a CLT SJU trip and we would be smokin' coming into the airfield. The controller said one day, "The only thing keepin' up with you guys is the A-7s in the PRANG."

We operated -200s with -7, -9 and -15 engines as well as inter-mixes. Never flew the -200 with the -17 engines but did get to fly a few modified 727s later. Boeing said they would NEVER again build an airplane with such a complicated wing.

"Give me 50% wing disassembly and the landing check..." (flaps 40..now locked out on many of the remaining 727s and many with the flaps 30 position locked out)

remlap

We were able to fly most of the time in the A mode on our -200s and so we let it rip. I can recall going into SJU and doing over 400 indicated... not bad for an airliner. Of course, we couldn't talk because of the noise but it was FUN.

And yes, PROTECT ESSENTIAL!![/QUOTE]

It was loud at first, now it's quiet.

shaggieshapiro

"If the person you're flying with is cranky and would rather take a nap and arque with everybody."................You gotta be over 60