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Old 12-30-2007 | 09:34 PM
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Whats the benefit of alpa over an internal union?

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Old 12-30-2007 | 10:47 PM
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In case you're not familiar with the FedEx pilot history, check this out for a brief summation. It's an ALPA publication, but don't read anything into that other than the first hit on the Google search: "history of fedex pilot union"

http://www.alpa.org/DesktopModules/A...2206&Tabid=256

Beyond that, it's not my place to comment as I don't work there.
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Old 12-31-2007 | 04:42 AM
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Whats the benefit of alpa over an internal union?
Alpa has thousands of costing models that will give us a monetary value for any proposed changes in our CBA, thus allowing us to evaluate company offers fairly. Alpa also has plenty of Ocean Front property in Arizona for members to use as vacation rentals.
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Old 12-31-2007 | 08:59 PM
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Whats the benefit of alpa over an internal union?
With an internal stand alone union, when times are good: Nothing. When times are bad: EVERYTHING! We've been there, done that and got the tee shirts.
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Old 01-03-2008 | 02:58 PM
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What's the advantage of having 40,000 people on your side vs 4000? Economies of scale is the first advantage. More experience to keep you from making repeated mistakes is another.
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Old 01-03-2008 | 03:03 PM
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Sign me up. If I could quit ALPA, I would, but thanks to our latest contract (brilliant!), I can't...It can't be any worse than our current leadership. SG
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Old 01-03-2008 | 03:04 PM
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Originally Posted by frozenboxhauler
With an internal stand alone union, when times are good: Nothing. When times are bad: EVERYTHING! We've been there, done that and got the tee shirts.
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What we need is Aikin and Ca$$el back to save us.
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Old 01-03-2008 | 03:17 PM
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Where were the costing models and the 40,000 people when it came time to evaluate the LOA and not make a mistake? (Insert cricket chirping noises here) That's right, no where to be found.

What a debacle that has turned into.

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Old 01-03-2008 | 03:24 PM
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Before my time was the FPA, however when you sign over to ALPA I was wondering do you also sign away some control of your own house. The effectiveness of any union seems to be the strength of the membership and the willingness to strike. Why do we need ALPA for that? After looking at the APA, SWAPA, IPA, the thought of revisiting an internal unnion seems more plausible...
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Old 01-03-2008 | 04:08 PM
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ALPA is a necessary evil. They have good resources and support, if it is properly used.
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