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Old 01-01-2008, 05:29 AM
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Still do not understand how they can ask us for BLG reduction when we're making millions?

The overmanned excuse is BS.


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Old 01-01-2008, 05:34 AM
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Latest email from "O" says no furlough.

We're not all doomed!

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Old 01-01-2008, 06:25 AM
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Maybe I'm missing something. With a BLG reduction won't we just go to work a day or two less a month? The lines will be built with less trips, correct? A little more time with the family, who cares.
We wish. Could very well be same days, more flying, with less pay. 15/19 days at oh, say 5 hrs/day vs. 6 now. Or less than that on reserve.

Mostly due to the optimizer, but the company hasn't mentioned that so far. They are blaming everything else.

The problem with reducing BLG is it's like a tax increase: once it's in place, you'll play hell trying to get it removed! Remember, there used to be a day around here where 7 hrs/day was the norm.

It sure would be nice to be getting SOME leadership from ALPA other than "we're too busy churning out paperwork for national to worry about our own guys."
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Old 01-01-2008, 06:39 AM
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Originally Posted by purpledog View Post
Maybe I'm missing something. With a BLG reduction won't we just go to work a day or two less a month? The lines will be built with less trips, correct? A little more time with the family, who cares.
Not for the reserve dudes, they could be looking at same work for less pay. No min pay per day for reserves.
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Old 01-01-2008, 08:14 AM
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Originally Posted by purpledog View Post
Maybe I'm missing something. With a BLG reduction won't we just go to work a day or two less a month? The lines will be built with less trips, correct? A little more time with the family, who cares.
So, just what does "minimum monthly guarantee" mean? To me, that min is my salary. Violating the min is the same as a furlough to me: involuntary loss of pay. If the company plans poorly, and they have, why should I have to be the one who takes the hit? It's not like they share the wealth when we have burgeoning bottom line (and we currently do, $400+ million profit last qtr)! So now, they want to slash mine?

Before this happens they NEED to redistribute the carry-over as a minimum.

They can't furlough and fill the FDA with a newhire at the same time. Sounds to me we're in the driver seat. Sounds to me we should DEMAND a better LOA!
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Originally Posted by a300fr8dog View Post
So, just what does "minimum monthly guarantee" mean? To me, that min is my salary. Violating the min is the same as a furlough to me: involuntary loss of pay. If the company plans poorly, and they have, why should I have to be the one who takes the hit? It's not like they share the wealth when we have burgeoning bottom line (and we currently do, $400+ million profit last qtr)! So now, they want to slash mine?

Before this happens they NEED to redistribute the carry-over as a minimum.

They can't furlough and fill the FDA with a newhire at the same time. Sounds to me we're in the driver seat. Sounds to me we should DEMAND a better LOA!


It seems that the easiest and most logical solution to your FDA problem is with the over 60 guys coming back to the front seats and displacing junior existing front seaters, for the company to displace to the foreign domiciles. The company wouldn't need to hire in that case as the FDA's would be filled with displacees.
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We don't displace at FedEx...
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Old 01-01-2008, 08:44 AM
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It seems that the easiest and most logical solution to your FDA problem is with the over 60 guys coming back to the front seats and displacing junior existing front seaters, for the company to displace to the foreign domiciles. The company wouldn't need to hire in that case as the FDA's would be filled with displacees.
A "displacee" (or as FDX labels them) bids for ANY seat he is senior enough to hold. He can't be forced to HKG or CDG. Not a well thought out plan, on FDX's part. They've usually done a great job at planning and growing. Managing a shrinking operation is another story.
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As far as R-Day value and reduced BLG, here is what I can find in the CBA. Has anyone seen anything that would lead you to reducing the number of R-days as BLG is reduced? From what I can find, they may reduce the nuber of r-days, but they don't have to. This is another one where the union needs to specify how this should be handled (r-day value remains approx 4:30 - reduce R-days as req'd to make RLG) since the CBA is not specific.

"A pilot who is awarded a reserve line shall have an RLG equal to the value of an R-day multiplied by the number of R-days scheduled on a reserve line for the bid period package (i.e., up to a maximum of 15 or 19 days). The value of an R-day shall be determined by dividing 96% of the average BLG for regular lines published in the bid period package by the number of R-days scheduled on a reserve line for the bid period package and then rounding that amount to the nearest minute. Prior to any adjustments, however, an RLG shall not be less than the minimum bid period guarantee as provided in Section 4.A.1."

"In a 4-week bid period, a reserve line shall contain a maximum of 15 R-days. In a 5-week bid period, a reserve line shall contain a maximum of 19 R-days."
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We have already seen lines built below BLG up in ANC. The company is using this overmanning as an excuse to lower the BLG guarentee that the optimizer has created.
As for cancelling upgrades and transfers in the last bid, I think guys could grieve it. The company should have had another bid with all the vacancies and see where the over 60 guys end up. If you want a window seat, bid an FDA.
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