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Old 01-17-2008, 08:06 PM
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I agree 100% and want to add if the FedEx MEC wishes me to believe anything they say all the guys who voted for the age 60 need to go. DW says is was his idea to put in the ropes clause to the 65 bill. I do not like one guy pushing his agenda on 4200 other guys. BC stated during the LOA meeting that STV was his idea? With guys like this working for us who needs enemies? Trust is earned by action and not by just saying what we want to hear at a meeting. Currently I do not think the MEC has our best interest in mind I believe they have ALPA Nationals and DW's future national office in mind. It's time we took back our MEC and focused the entire crew force's interest. That sadly is impossible because like congress they have written the rules so they are untouchable. This was illustrated when the recall effort was voted on. Because you have to let the MEC know in advance of your intent they had all the proxies needed to win the vote. The MEC was also using every rule in the book to disallow proxies voting for the recall. Mine was excluded even though it was filled out like the union office said it had to be on the phone.
MEC = NO TRUST UNTIL UNDER NEW LEADERSHIP
Are you leading another recall?
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Old 01-17-2008, 08:40 PM
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Recall is hopeless. Glad to to see Albie and Vic get in, hopefully change will come as the other block reps come up for vote. I just think the MEC should work for the FedEx membership as a whole.
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Old 01-18-2008, 03:34 AM
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I think its safe to say while the MEC top 3 are safe and sound, the complaints probably did contribute to an expedited selection of a new NC.

FWIW...I've been on the fence on the pro negotiator/pilot lead negotiator fence a while. A couple days around Fred Eissler have convinced me that I think we have a very solid vector. Having someone with SIG experience on the team is a very good idea IMHO, as so much of our contractual battles center on work rules.
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Eissler have convinced me that I think we have a very solid vector. Having someone with SIG experience on the team is a very good idea IMHO, as so much of our contractual battles center on work rules.
Selecting Fred was the easy part.

The hard part is counting on the education and dedication of those who vote on the contract. The Company counts on ignorance and lack of stones.....and are seldom disappointed!
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Old 01-18-2008, 04:09 AM
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Have not read the whole message yet - so maybe this is answered.

But, the question is obvious. MEC officer pay is now reduced, correct?
The question still stands. Albie - did you misspeak, or did I mis-understand?

BLG's are being reduced, as you stated.
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Old 01-18-2008, 05:09 AM
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No way to cap and bank!!!!!!!!!! To me, that is the worst of unionism. We should all live within our means obviously, but why "salary" yourself and remove the insurance policy of being able to make a little cash should a family emergency arise.

Why am I not surprised to disagree with DW? Cap and bank deserves a thread all of its own. Too tired to really hammer against it right now.
The "cap and bank" is being discussed as a limited alternative to putting guys on the street or agreeing to a significant reduction in BLG. Are you really against it in this regard?
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Old 01-18-2008, 05:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Albief15 View Post
I think its safe to say while the MEC top 3 are safe and sound, the complaints probably did contribute to an expedited selection of a new NC.

FWIW...I've been on the fence on the pro negotiator/pilot lead negotiator fence a while. A couple days around Fred Eissler have convinced me that I think we have a very solid vector. Having someone with SIG experience on the team is a very good idea IMHO, as so much of our contractual battles center on work rules.
While FE might be a great guy and is a plus on the NC team, I think it's time the union spends some of our dues money on a professional negotiating firm. I've talked with many guys on the line who feel the same way. The MEC's argument that they just don't know our business holds NO water. If the MEC doesn't fully research this option, they should be removed for NOT fulfilling their fiduciary responsibility. They should be asking the crewforce what they think about it and act accordingly instead of the ALPA party line.
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Old 01-18-2008, 05:28 AM
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The question still stands. Albie - did you misspeak, or did I mis-understand?

BLG's are being reduced, as you stated.
If BLGs go below the min guarantee pay will be reduced.

If you'd like to make a motion to lower it below the current contract, that is certainly an option. However, right now the idea I hear bantered is that if we were forced to accept BLGS below the contract guarantee--there would be adjustments.

Does that answer your question? In short...pay meets CBA mins...things stay as is. If they go below min, pay will be adjusted. Didn't mean to sound like I was avoiding the question...
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Old 01-18-2008, 05:30 AM
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While FE might be a great guy and is a plus on the NC team, I think it's time the union spends some of our dues money on a professional negotiating firm. I've talked with many guys on the line who feel the same way. The MEC's argument that they just don't know our business holds NO water. If the MEC doesn't fully research this option, they should be removed for NOT fulfilling their fiduciary responsibility. They should be asking the crewforce what they think about it and act accordingly instead of the ALPA party line.
Noted. I'll discuss this when I take office. Suggest you also express same sentiments to your block rep.

The "answer" I get is "nobody complained when DELTA pilots got the industry leading contract..." which is true. I'll get smarter on the whole NC process and let you know what I find out. BTW...this isn't a "tomorrow" or "next week" issue...this one will take some time.
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Do they still think it will go senior?
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