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Old 01-18-2008, 07:40 PM
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Makes you wonder about PC. Got a response out rather quick.
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Old 01-18-2008, 07:43 PM
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I don't buy one word of it, this is a pure setting for a change. We've NEVER gotten these before. Theres a reason we all got these as fcifs. Now is the time not to accept anything face value from management.
 
Old 01-18-2008, 08:19 PM
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Again, We have the power. We're not overstaffed if we use our sick and vacation. Last figure I heard (6 years ago), the majority of the pilots didn't even use half their sick time a year. I'm sure its about the same now. If your sick don't fly and call in sick. too many times I've flown (including myself) with a guy thats coughing and sneezzing away. Don't use it illegally but if your sick , call in Sick!!!!
 
Old 01-18-2008, 08:46 PM
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Originally Posted by EGGMAN View Post
I don't buy one word of it, this is a pure setting for a change. We've NEVER gotten these before. Theres a reason we all got these as fcifs. Now is the time not to accept anything face value from management.
I'm rather surprised also. Not that they are asking the question to the IRS - its their fiduciary duty to do so - but rather that they are alerting us that they are asking the question.....already.

Don't know why PC even needed to put out the last FCIF.
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Old 01-18-2008, 09:14 PM
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Nothing routine about those requests to the IRS at all. I've never seen them in FCIF format before. Sounds like we're about to give up something to keep what we've already got...
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Old 01-18-2008, 09:37 PM
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It's my understanding the company gets tax breaks with the B-Plan. The question is, will the IRS honor those tax breaks with the new age 60 rule.
At Union meetings last spring/summer, DW said the B-Plan is part of our CBA and cannot be terminated without negotiating with the membership. We should be able to drag this out for awhile!!!!
Nothing should be dragged out. We shouldnt budge on anything that will cost us!

I am not saying all feel this way, but, I sure see a lot of posts where folks imply that we will be giving things up. Boy, I think we have given enough up already! Sometimes we talk/act like a dog that has been beaten down.
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Old 01-18-2008, 09:41 PM
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Originally Posted by hschol View Post
Makes you wonder about PC. Got a response out rather quick.
One shouldnt wonder about PC. He is management who used to be one of us, and flew at 2000% during a "slowdown" in the mid 90's. There is only one thing he cares about above all else.
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Old 01-19-2008, 05:32 AM
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Originally Posted by iarapilot View Post
One shouldnt wonder about PC. He is management who used to be one of us, and flew at 2000% during a "slowdown" in the mid 90's. There is only one thing he cares about above all else.
Trust PC just as you would your ex wifes divorce lawyer.
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Old 01-19-2008, 05:48 AM
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Originally Posted by iarapilot View Post
One shouldnt wonder about PC. He is management who used to be one of us, and flew at 2000% during a "slowdown" in the mid 90's. There is only one thing he cares about above all else.
I "think" he flew draft while he was on paid union trip removal (he was supposed to be negotiating our FPA contract as NC chairman!). The version of the story I heard said the VP of Flight Ops called the union and asked if they knew about it!*?

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Old 01-19-2008, 05:54 AM
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Just saw FCIF from PC stating this had nothing to do with age 65. Just routine.
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