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Old 02-16-2008 | 12:56 AM
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I just spent 4 days in Almaty and ran into a retired Delta and a retired NW guy flying for Air Astana. Both guys retired early. They told me they are doing the contract thing and that they are bringing in quite a few Ex-pats. They said they get a pretty good deal and you get to live Almaty, what a deal!
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Old 02-16-2008 | 04:23 AM
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Having never been to Almaty, what is there to do other than the obvious droves of young Russian/Stan women. For those of you who actually left your hotel room for more than 15 minutes--what did you find. Are you instant millionaires over there for stuff to buy/eat? What do they specialize in for things to buy.

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Old 02-16-2008 | 06:12 AM
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[quote=fishalaska;321368]Having never been to Almaty, what is there to do other than the obvious droves of young Russian/Stan women. Fish/quote]

I'm sorry, did you have a question? Actually, depending on the season, there is skiing, hiking, hunting and a bunch more that you will hear about soon, I suspect.
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Old 02-16-2008 | 07:50 AM
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Originally Posted by FreightDawgyDog
The Poster Child (or Poster Retread) for this group is LW. Here is a guy who spent over 30 years here and who has a son in line for an interview. All qualifications met and working at a regionial until he can get on here. Just marking time until we start hiring again. I am sure he appreciates Dad for looking out for the kids and making sure his seniority number will have to wait that much longer so Pops can come back and suck up that last bit of food in the trough even though he's got plenty to eat already. Talk about tigers eating their young.
Thanks for the concern, I do intend to be a Poster Child (or Retread if you prefer) for the group. I intend to pass my training, keep my physical ( lost 25 lbs already) and be a better captain than I was on my first tour. I have had more opportunity lately to see how other captains handle situations than I did in the last fifteen years and have learned a lot from them (again). I know I am an old dog, but I am sure I have a few more miles left.

Thanks for the concern for my son. He has been through the interview and is in the pool. It was unfortunate that he did not get hired for domestic operations, but if the FDA is the only way to fly at FedEx he says he will go. I think he likes rice. If my leaving would guarantee him a slot any higher than he may already be in line for, I would leave (for him...not you).

I am sure you are probably a nice guy, but it is not your turn to move up yet. Life and FedEx are full of unexpected hardship (I had mine too) and I am sorry to say this probably will not be the last for any of us.

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Old 02-16-2008 | 08:13 AM
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Thanks for the concern, I do intend to be a Poster Child (or Retread if you prefer) for the group. I intend to pass my training, keep my physical ( lost 25 lbs already) and be a better captain than I was on my first tour... (
Great first post (well, not really). I guess you posted that thinking it would make us think of you in a better light? You are exactly the problem the younger guys complain about. It isn't bad enough that you'll be around taking other guys spots, now you're gloating about it. If I were you, I would make sure to handle my own catering from now on?
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Old 02-16-2008 | 08:34 AM
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"I am sure you are probably a nice guy, but it is not your turn to move up yet."

I don't know how nice I am but I would never be on here gloating about being part of the group that is responsible for your son having to wait longer to get hired or force him overseas for the next 5-10 years if he wants on now. And for accuracies sake, it was my time to move up, it was your time to go after moving up when others left at 60, and now you are moving me and everyone else back so you can fly 3 more years. Thanks for stopping by and showing us what a "nice guy" you are. If your son takes the FDA job I wonder how long it will before he can bid back? Oh well, at least you can fly over to see him and the grandkids whenever you want after you get through training.
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Old 02-16-2008 | 09:58 AM
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Originally Posted by trashhauler
I just spent 4 days in Almaty and ran into a retired Delta and a retired NW guy flying for Air Astana. Both guys retired early. They told me they are doing the contract thing and that they are bringing in quite a few Ex-pats. They said they get a pretty good deal and you get to live Almaty, what a deal!
Sounds like the new Campinas. Can't wait to see the pics of the over-60 guys with their 15 yr old girlfriends.

Oh...don't forget to bring along the lil' blue pills.
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Old 02-16-2008 | 10:30 AM
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Originally Posted by TopFDXdog
If my leaving would guarantee him a slot any higher than he may already be in line for, I would leave (for him...not you).

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I don't think you get it. You've been here what 36-38 years? Fully funded pension? I could understand if you were at 23-24 years trying to retire without a penalty but not where you are. Then you come on here and try to justify it but all I see is you goating. I thought you said you learned something from the captains you've been flying with while on the panel. I know they didn't teach you that!
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Old 02-16-2008 | 10:58 AM
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Oops! This dog stuck his nose in a bee hive. FWIW, I did not mean to gloat. When I got here upgrade to captain was fast. I got into Falcon captain class and half way through the company had problems and I spent the next two years as a copilot at less than I made as a CW2 and no PX or housing allowances. I didn't even think that the senior retired military officers should leave to let us younger guys have the upgrade. I only wanted to say that I am sorry it caused hardships that you will always remember. I know I remember the ones that affected me. Am I going to leave? Probably not until I can't pass the physical, check ride or I decide it's time. This is not a gloat. It is sharing an old pain that is an unfortunate part of the job. Thanks to MaydayMark for the heads up. It's a "cheap shot" that someone may try, but not nearly as bad as the body parts a F-14 pilot told me they rubbed inside another guys coffee cup.
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Old 02-16-2008 | 11:59 AM
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Regardless of how we wanted the age 60 thing to turn out, it is unprofessional to treat these guys this way. I still think 65 could have passed almost 2 years ago so we were on borrowed time since then.

Being peedoff all the time is no way to go thru the rest of our careers. I say we let them be by resisting the temptation to be sore losers.


IMHO, while I wish well on all, many will not make it all the way to 65. Some will have overriding health issues. Some may just call it quits at 62 or 63. Some may not make thru training. Some may spend a year as FO and say enough is enough.

I remember someone had info on a significant number of medical retirements with the under 60 crowd. I'm betting that percentage will increase with over 60 members.
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