Very sad story...
06-19-2008, 04:52 PM
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Originally Posted by navigatro
The mighty A-7.
06-19-2008, 04:56 PM
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Originally Posted by AerisArmis
When does the "NOT have a choice" begin? If I chose not to use meth, am I still an addict? If I use it once? Twice? If she had chosen never to use drugs...of any kind...would she still be alive? I feel sorry for her and her family but, you "DO have a choice" whether to use drugs.....and only then can you become an addict and "NOT have a choice". Any kind of addiction is a dead end street and it's just a sad state of affairs.
Can they "choose" or even "control" their tendencies? Maybe, but it's an uphill fight all the way. This poor UPS pilot may have fought it as hard as she could but ultimately lost the battle, who knows. As others have said, we can't judge what her situation was.
But this is also why people who beat one addiction like gambling, often just turn to another addiction like alcohol. It's a tough road for anyone to deal with, and in many cases like this one, sadly, it ends tragically.
06-19-2008, 04:56 PM
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First it was the man keeping us down, now it's not enough gamma-aminobutyric acid. No need to blame yourself for bad decisions anymore.
06-19-2008, 04:57 PM
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Originally Posted by HDawg
First it was the man keeping us down, now it's not enough gamma-aminobutyric acid. No need to blame yourself for bad decisions anymore.
06-19-2008, 05:08 PM
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Originally Posted by norskman2
Nice try, MM. But have you heard of little gadgets like MRIs, PET scans and DNA markers? This is MEDICAL SCIENCE, not psychology any more. Get into the 21st Century or stop commenting on things you don't know anything about. Read my post again. Some people don't have enough insulin. They're called diabetics. Some people don't have enough gamma-aminobutyric acid. They're called addicts. Do some book learnin', son.
I was Ok with your ph.d. level scolding until you called me "son." I have no problem being called numerous curse words (I probably ask for that?) but son and junior are off limits.
FYI ... I've had family members that suffered from mental illness (the drug addicts and alcholics seem to always be thrown into the same counseling sessions), and have become quite an authority on the subject. In fact, I'm writing a book for families on the subject.
There are numerous psychiatrists that totally discount the "therapy" method of treatment and choose instead to treat folk with drugs only. Seems to work ... maybe you're the one that could do "some learnin."
06-19-2008, 05:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Slice
It was a reference to babies being born addicted to crack. While 'addiction' may be a disease (which I don't buy because it's PC bull-****), the choice to start or not is what ultimately matters... I feel for the families that are affected by the poor decisions and/or selfishness of their relatives. While I believe the story that started this post is sad and wouldn't wish it upon anyone, I, like Albie, have little sympathy for someone who CHOOSES an unwise path.
What? Do you think that everyone that has made a bad choice should be condemned to a lifetime ofconsequences? Even when they make the choice to stop using? Why does that first bad choice have to be what "ultimately matters" when an addicts decides to get help?
Haven't you ever made a bad choice?
P.S. and you fly airplanes???
06-19-2008, 05:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Slice
I thought all the world's problems were due to global warming?
No, no. You are wrong. Its climate change. Thats the new buzzword these days.
FWIW, addiction is not a choice, thats why its called addiction. There is plenty of medical evidence to show that.
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06-19-2008, 05:12 PM
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Sad Story...
06-19-2008, 05:20 PM
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You pro addiction guys live in a very black and white world. No gray areas.
Some people just like crank.
Some people just like crank.
06-19-2008, 05:20 PM
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Originally Posted by BonesF15
Sad Story...
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