2cylinderdriver

I agree with that philosophy at a smaller outfit, but with the merry go round in our mgt ranks, what you say or write CAN and MAY be used against you. I think the better policy is do what you need to do and only speak when spoken to. If you are spoken to, live by ATFQ and only after consulting the ALPA Legal Dept.

Regarding sick usage or fitness for duty, the PILOT still holds all the cards. This is one area the FAR's still gives the individual the responsibility to show up fit for duty. Remember the old AIM section on this ? IMSAFE still applies.

magic rat

That's exactly right, I called the union to ask when it happened to me. ALSO, they DO NOT have to give you 24hr notice if on R24 and sick, they can just go out of order and assign it whenever they want and you'll get charged.

hyperone

Huh? So how are they not required to comply with CBA 25.M.3.a.iii. below?

iii. Pilots on R-24 status must be given at least 24 hours notice prior to the showtime of any assignment, except:
(a) an R24 pilot may be hub turned with less than 24 hours notice;
and
(b) if an R-24 pilot is performing an assignment, is on vacation or has
a 48 hour international duty free buffer during his first availability period, CRS may give the pilot a reserve assignment by placing
the assignment in VIPS at least 24 hours prior to its scheduled
showtime.
iv. An R-24 pilot shall not have his RP changed to a non R-24 period
(Section 25.M.3.d.).

There's no exception to the 24 hour notice requirement of this section for someone in a sick status. Again, if that happens, call the Contract Enforcement office and force D.T. to grieve it! I believe just taking his word for what's legal and what's not, isn't good enough - call your rep and have him help you get a grievance filed if you have to, but this continual pushing of the envelope by scheds, and our own C.E. office's acquiescence to these contract violations, has got to stop.

magic rat

I called contract enforcement when I was tagged with 6 hrs notice while on R24 and sick....they said it was legit. While SICK "all bets are off" was what I was told.

Call 'em yourself and ask.

fedupbusdriver

Just because they said it, doesn't make it so.

Reserve Pilots
The following shall apply to a reserve pilot who calls in sick for an R-day(s) or a reserve assignment:

1. A pilot holding a line comprised entirely of R-days and who is sick for all such R-days shall be compensated his RLG and shall have his sick leave reduced by such RLG.
2. A reserve pilot who has been given a reserve assignment(s) prior to calling in sick shall be removed from that assignment(s) commencing at 0900 LBT on the day prior to showtime for that assignment(s) or at the time of the sick call, whichever is later.
3. A reserve pilot on sick leave shall be assigned open time as if he were not on sick leave (Section 25.G.3. Open Time Assignment and Section 25.M.6. Reserve Assignment Options). A reserve pilot will maintain his leveling position on the reserve list, and the scheduled credit hours for any trips he is assigned and removed as sick will be credited toward his RLG and deducted from his sick bank. Commencing at 0900 LBT each day, a reserve pilot with an assignment(s) having a showtime during the next day shall be removed for sick leave and such assignment be available for open time assignment by CRS.

If you were not called in sick, they could not do it, so according to above, they can't do it when sick.

I would have elevated this above Dear David.

FDXLAG

Please, what is written in the contract has absolutely nothing to do with the way contract enforcement interprets the contract.

fedupbusdriver

then why ever bother.....

FDXLAG

That is the lesson I learned from my grieve attempt (accepted fares).