Scenario:
A pilot is on his/her last day off before starting a string of R24 days in 10 hours. Pilot logs onto VIPS to check open time and sees the "crew notification" prompt. Instead of clicking on the notification tab, pilot checks calander and sees a trip assignment with a showtime of 22:30 hours out (clearly less than 24). Pilot logs off. Scheds has not called either of two phone numbers to verbally notify pilot of trip assignment.

Is pilot considered notified and responsible to operate trip?

 

they can tell when and where you go when you log into vips whether you take the notification or not. just a fyi. I haven't looked in the contract to see what the day prior notification requirements are but i'm sure some of the experts on here have but I believe scheds dropped the ball on your notification.

 

Because the company sees that you saw your trip in VIPS, you are considered notified. Yes, even though you did not acknowledge the CN, they can see that you saw the trip. I would call skeds and tell them that you did not receive 24hrs notice and are refusing the trip. You are not required to check VIPS when on R24, skeds is responsible for notifying you. If you just don't show up, they will probably try to say you accepted the trip and list you as a no show. If skeds won't abide by the contract, then I would call your ACP at home tonight.

 

they now know that you know......but......are you considered correctly "notified"? you decide....i'd say you might have a slight upper hand over CRS for once.....maybe?

here's the contract section on "notification" - 25.M.3.c.



c. Notification

 

They CAN put your assignment in VIPS without calling in two special cases:

(otherwise - they have to notify by phone as per 25.M.3.c.)

25.M.3.a.iii.

iii. Pilots on R-24 status must be given at least 24 hours
notice prior to the showtime of any assignment,
except:
(a) an R-24 pilot may be hub turned with less than 24
hours notice; and
(b) if an R-24 pilot is performing an assignment, is on
vacation or has a 48 hour international duty free
buffer during his fi rst availability period, CRS may
give the pilot a reserve assignment by placing the
assignment in VIPS at least 24 hours prior to its
scheduled showtime.

 

Thanks for all the feeback and advice. I was aware that they knew I had seen the trip....just wasn't sure if it was legal. Also, didn't fall under 25.M.3.a.iii.
Called the union and they said don't know. Then I called scheds, she looked at it and immediately apologized, removed me from trip, admitting she dropped the ball and should have called me.
In summary, when on R24 and not under 25.M.3.a.iii, the requirement for notification is a phone call at least 24 hours out, or pilot actually seeing the VIPS notice at least 24 hours out.

 

Thank god we pay all these dues so contract enforcement and our lawyers (best in the business) can give you this answer. I say call your rep AND the officers and demand better service!!! That kind of reply is BS.

 

This is funny....Dave Taylor is a total waste of oxygen. This has been a hot question with the pilot group for a long time. How could you "not know"?

Every time I have had a well researched question with all references handy, and I got Dave on the phone, I was met with total ignorance and indifference.

I am a huge ALPA guy, but the "contract admin" at FDX is WEAK!!!!

At the commuter I worked for before FDX, they had more work ethic and info with a whole lot less resorces.......pathatic.

 

So just because you went into your calendar in VIPS, how can the company assume that you were looking at this newly assigned trip. Perhaps you went there to check on something that happened a month or two ago. I don't believe it's your responsibility to preemptively check vips under the circumstances that you describe. However, I use to do exactly what you did, that of disregarding the assignment notification and going directly into my calendar. Once you click on the notification, you're stuck. Even if you don't hit the acknowledge prompt, the system will always bring you right back to that acknowledge prompt screen. So my question is: do you suppose that the company tracks our movements in the computer that closely, that they would argue that you did receive proper notification. I would hope not, but couldn't swear to it.

As an aside, we used to have a female crewmember who would never call in to the company, or log onto the FedEx computer, because she didn't want "them" to know where she was. This was the same lady that carried a loaded 38 special in her bag (not at work, of course), even though she didn't live in Memphis. She was a Colorado girl, who passed away a number of years ago. Not real pretty, but she sure had a great bod.

 

Lighten up Francis