Boost,

Check the union website under the security committee(FDX) for your "special agent" rep. The link and information were under the program updates about 2 years ago. If you can't find it, email the union program rep. and ask him for it.

I agree with putting the kibosh on discussions regarding training for those in the program. If you want to talk about shooting in general have at it, but leave the program stuff out. No point.

But if you want to debate shooting, I'll throw some red meat on the table:

1911s are not the end all and be all of the shooting world.

Ready. Set. Go......

Might be a valid question if Glocks were the issued weapon..........but....alas......they are not.

Just for some helpful info - CAG the Army's elite no longer carry 1911's - They had too many issues in the sand. The final two pistols came down between the Glock 22 (.40) and the Springfield XD. The Glock topped the XD in the -40F shoot. So they're carrying Glock's now (compensated, match trigger, and a few other goodies).

the HK P7M8 is a really cool little pistol... you just can't miss with it... gas operated, low recoil...little pricey though

Well, anything beats that POS 9mm.

Still like the 1911 trigger over the HK and will take the quality in the HK over the Glock. 8000 rounds thru the HK before the first jam and that was very likely a bad round.

Who was manufacturing the 1911's that had the problem with sand?

As much as I hate the 1911 and 9mm - they were selected because of the battlefield availability of the NATO 9mm round.

The theory being you expend all your ammo and find more on the next body you come past... but if I ever expended all of my 1911 ammo, I would have had a really poor day to start with.

My favorite is the SIG P229 .357 , perfect grip, accurate as hell. Takes a lick'in and keeps on tick'in.

I do believe that the 1911 45 cal was selected to replace the 38 revolver due to its knock down power. If you got a peice of them with the 45 it stopped them the 38 ( or 9mm ) they could still kill you.

There seems to be a fair availability of rebuilt 9mm , rumor has it that our guys are really unhappy with the performance in the rough environment.

There are certain USMC and Army units that still use the 1911 .45, some other SOCOM units use the Mark 23 .45... I think USASF still might use the M9. The USCG even kicked the 9mm in favor of the .40. FBI kicked the .38 in favor of the .40 after some disappointing fights... I guess the .38 would bounce off of the windshields instead of penetrating.

Some lower line 1911s can suck though.

The only 1911's that I have used are colts manufactured in the late sixties and the early seventies and the Smith and Wesson and after some stove pipe issues during the break in on the Colts haven't had a problem.