Blowing Crap into the wind...Disinformation
#1
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Blowing Crap into the wind...Disinformation
I was just reading another Cargo thread about the current hiring status and furloughing of crews for an Asian Carrier. Yes, I'm one of those currently work for an Asian Airline. I guess we're all suppose to be acting in good-faith here in the forum and helping those in-need of information to further their careers, but it really "miffs" me when people write totally fabricated postings. I've seen it on other threads also and know for a fact that someone is blowing crap into the wind just for the sake of making themselves feel good. I know that most of us here are honest, but I take it that some people are writing crap (disinformation) just to throw people off their own job seeking track (lesson the competition) or just ****ed at the company they are working for. We're all are under a veil here, it would be really interesting to see what percentage of pilots who claim to be at that air carrier, are actually working there, worked there at one time or really are pilots? It's good to do get the "intel" here and it's still a good place to get some information, but the bottom line, do your own due deligence and network face-to-face if you can with pilots/reps to get the true information. I've had a few times where applicants came by our hotel as we were checking in/out or coming out of Customs and ask us for information about our company. Most decent pilots, won't blow you off and will understand your situation. Yeah, most of us might be tired after a 9 hour all-nighter from Tokyo, but I've never seen one pilot I know tell someone to kiss-off. Don't get discouraged just because someone posts something in a negative manner (yes, it certainly might be true but it also might be a disinformation ploy). I'm not going to get into a "****ing" contest of whose right and whose wrong and I'm not calling anyone out....just be honest and factual, what you post, can affect others whose making life altering decisions.
Enough said.
Enough said.
#2
Thanks for the post and I appreciate your candor. I agree that the anonymity on this forum is a "double edged sword": It allows crews to the ability to discuss a wide gamut of topics without fear of reprisal from their employers*.
The downfall of the anonymity of course is accountability and to a lessor extent credibility. This forum obviously has many many experienced and helpful pilots who contribute to a healthy dialog on a wide range of aviation topics. However, there is no way to verify the accuracy of information from an anonymous user. In the course of posted topic on this forum, or any forum, legitimate users with good intentions and accurate information will dispel inaccuracies. Ultimately a user of this forum will have to determine the usability (if any) of any information on their own.
*[note: we do cooperate with law enforcement in supeonas in cases of alleged slander, liable, etc].
The downfall of the anonymity of course is accountability and to a lessor extent credibility. This forum obviously has many many experienced and helpful pilots who contribute to a healthy dialog on a wide range of aviation topics. However, there is no way to verify the accuracy of information from an anonymous user. In the course of posted topic on this forum, or any forum, legitimate users with good intentions and accurate information will dispel inaccuracies. Ultimately a user of this forum will have to determine the usability (if any) of any information on their own.
*[note: we do cooperate with law enforcement in supeonas in cases of alleged slander, liable, etc].
#3
Life altering decisions based on comments on a forum? Do you also purchase shares of XYZ based on comments on these threads? Of course not, so you'd be wise to take most of what you read in online chats with a grain of salt.
#4
Originally Posted by Freighter Captain
Do you also purchase shares of XYZ based on comments on these threads?
Uh, oh. Are you saying I should sell XYZ now? What time do the markets close?
YIKES!
- The truth only hurts if it should -
#5
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Exactly my point, some people do take this forum and other open pilot forums seriously and perhaps may be their only source of information as they lack the necessary due deligence to get further information or maybe stuck in the "sand-box", as we were for some time, with limited amount of available information. Some pilots are more desperate than others. When I first applied to our contract company, much of the information I received on this forum fortunately was 90% or so correct and very helpful and insightful. Fortunately, I didn't take it as a grain of salt, as the information helped me pass the interview and sim-check. But I also did my own intel to filter out what may or may not not be true. Maybe your life is all settled in flying for UPS but then again, perhaps you may not even be a pilot at all and wanting everyone in this forum to believe you're an UPS pilot..who knows...that's my other point. I'm taking it for pure face value that you are. Perhaps, it's utopic, but my posting was to make the "less-infomed" to become more informed. Hopefully people will work on good faith and honesty. Not all people think alike and make decisions in different manner.
#7
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Joined APC: Nov 2005
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Posts: 7
thanks
thanks for all of the true gouge. I bet your Navy background is a part of why integrity is important. I too worked in the same field of aviation as you but of a different color. Having been a temporary Okie also I wish more forum participants looked for the good in information flow.
#8
Originally Posted by TACAMO
I was just reading another Cargo thread about the current hiring status and furloughing of crews for an Asian Carrier. Yes, I'm one of those currently work for an Asian Airline. I guess we're all suppose to be acting in good-faith here in the forum and helping those in-need of information to further their careers, but it really "miffs" me when people write totally fabricated postings. I've seen it on other threads also and know for a fact that someone is blowing crap into the wind just for the sake of making themselves feel good. I know that most of us here are honest, but I take it that some people are writing crap (disinformation) just to throw people off their own job seeking track (lesson the competition) or just ****ed at the company they are working for. We're all are under a veil here, it would be really interesting to see what percentage of pilots who claim to be at that air carrier, are actually working there, worked there at one time or really are pilots? It's good to do get the "intel" here and it's still a good place to get some information, but the bottom line, do your own due deligence and network face-to-face if you can with pilots/reps to get the true information. I've had a few times where applicants came by our hotel as we were checking in/out or coming out of Customs and ask us for information about our company. Most decent pilots, won't blow you off and will understand your situation. Yeah, most of us might be tired after a 9 hour all-nighter from Tokyo, but I've never seen one pilot I know tell someone to kiss-off. Don't get discouraged just because someone posts something in a negative manner (yes, it certainly might be true but it also might be a disinformation ploy). I'm not going to get into a "****ing" contest of whose right and whose wrong and I'm not calling anyone out....just be honest and factual, what you post, can affect others whose making life altering decisions.
Enough said.
Enough said.
I am in fact being let go before my contract term, Sept 15th. I did not post any negative information in any of my posts.
I will gladly buy you a beer at the Flyers or the Barge. Do we have to use the secret handshake for you to believe me?
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