Did UPS screw up?
12-07-2008, 10:53 PM
#11
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Hi!
I was just in SDF the other day, parked in the NE cargo ramp, waiting to fly back to YIP. We just found out we'd be fired/downsized/terminated when we got back.
I was watching the UPS planes landing, and was very jealous. It is nice to be somewhere that is a great place to work, with good work rules, good pay, and as stable as possible.
Maybe someday I'll be able to fly at UPS, but I'm not holding my breath.
The top two hiring companies that I've found, for my situation, are Mesaba and GoJet. I am hoping I can get an interview for at least one of those two.
Which is better: Hoping for Mesaba or GoJet, or flying at UPS?
cliff
YIP
I was just in SDF the other day, parked in the NE cargo ramp, waiting to fly back to YIP. We just found out we'd be fired/downsized/terminated when we got back.
I was watching the UPS planes landing, and was very jealous. It is nice to be somewhere that is a great place to work, with good work rules, good pay, and as stable as possible.
Maybe someday I'll be able to fly at UPS, but I'm not holding my breath.
The top two hiring companies that I've found, for my situation, are Mesaba and GoJet. I am hoping I can get an interview for at least one of those two.
Which is better: Hoping for Mesaba or GoJet, or flying at UPS?
cliff
YIP
12-07-2008, 11:48 PM
#12
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Originally Posted by atpcliff
Hi!
Which is better: Hoping for Mesaba or GoJet, or flying at UPS?
cliff
YIP
Which is better: Hoping for Mesaba or GoJet, or flying at UPS?
cliff
YIP
I won't have to wear brown, it clashes with my fur.
12-07-2008, 11:51 PM
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Originally Posted by atpcliff
Hi!
I was watching the UPS planes landing, and was very jealous. It is nice to be somewhere that is a great place to work, with good work rules, good pay, and as stable as possible.
Maybe someday I'll be able to fly at UPS, but I'm not holding my breath.
The top two hiring companies that I've found, for my situation, are Mesaba and GoJet. I am hoping I can get an interview for at least one of those two.
Which is better: Hoping for Mesaba or GoJet, or flying at UPS?
cliff
YIP
I was watching the UPS planes landing, and was very jealous. It is nice to be somewhere that is a great place to work, with good work rules, good pay, and as stable as possible.
Maybe someday I'll be able to fly at UPS, but I'm not holding my breath.
The top two hiring companies that I've found, for my situation, are Mesaba and GoJet. I am hoping I can get an interview for at least one of those two.
Which is better: Hoping for Mesaba or GoJet, or flying at UPS?
cliff
YIP
12-08-2008, 05:25 AM
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Originally Posted by FR8K9
To answer the question, Did UPS screw up?
Well, a few months ago they had a $10 billion dollar contract, and today they don't. I'd say someone screwed up!
I wonder who is responsible to UPS for losing $10 billion?
Well, a few months ago they had a $10 billion dollar contract, and today they don't. I'd say someone screwed up!
I wonder who is responsible to UPS for losing $10 billion?
I take responsibility,
didn't think we would really get any extra pilot flying here so decided to try to help my ABX/Astar buds. I blew it. Sorry to all. Fortunately as a line dude I still have my job <g> unlike my buds <ng>
12-08-2008, 05:32 AM
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USA Jet
Originally Posted by atpcliff
Hi!
I was just in SDF the other day, parked in the NE cargo ramp, waiting to fly back to YIP. We just found out we'd be fired/downsized/terminated when we got back.
I was watching the UPS planes landing, and was very jealous. It is nice to be somewhere that is a great place to work, with good work rules, good pay, and as stable as possible.
Maybe someday I'll be able to fly at UPS, but I'm not holding my breath.
The top two hiring companies that I've found, for my situation, are Mesaba and GoJet. I am hoping I can get an interview for at least one of those two.
Which is better: Hoping for Mesaba or GoJet, or flying at UPS?
cliff
YIP
I was just in SDF the other day, parked in the NE cargo ramp, waiting to fly back to YIP. We just found out we'd be fired/downsized/terminated when we got back.
I was watching the UPS planes landing, and was very jealous. It is nice to be somewhere that is a great place to work, with good work rules, good pay, and as stable as possible.
Maybe someday I'll be able to fly at UPS, but I'm not holding my breath.
The top two hiring companies that I've found, for my situation, are Mesaba and GoJet. I am hoping I can get an interview for at least one of those two.
Which is better: Hoping for Mesaba or GoJet, or flying at UPS?
cliff
YIP
Cliff -
As a DC-9 capt working in YIP, sound like you're a USA Jetter. If that is correct, what's going on with "Marty's Airline?" I was shocked to hear they're down to 5 DC-9's. They were the best gig in a rotten profession during my day.
Rott
12-08-2008, 07:51 AM
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Originally Posted by nightfreight
jungle,
In an attempt to sound overly intelligent, you always end up as the fool. Now go finish that GED and make something of yourself.
In an attempt to sound overly intelligent, you always end up as the fool. Now go finish that GED and make something of yourself.
Since DHL has no deal with UPS or FEDEX and none of us know the terms offered, I think it is fair to say that no deal is the best path right now.
12-08-2008, 09:45 AM
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Originally Posted by FR8K9
To answer the question, Did UPS screw up?
Well, a few months ago they had a $10 billion dollar contract, and today they don't. I'd say someone screwed up!
I wonder who is responsible to UPS for losing $10 billion?
Well, a few months ago they had a $10 billion dollar contract, and today they don't. I'd say someone screwed up!
I wonder who is responsible to UPS for losing $10 billion?
So, to whoever is whinning about not getting their UPS upgrade... maybe you and the Astar guys can meet at the bar and discuss your situation. I would bet that they would even buy the first round.
12-08-2008, 09:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Formerbuspilot
That would be the Astar pilot group. They seemed to have the biggest set of stones during all this can probably take the most credit for really stirring the pot when this bag of crap was thrown into their crew room.
Nice work.
12-08-2008, 09:59 AM
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I'm sure you are crying in your beer every night thinking about those poor drivers...
12-08-2008, 10:10 AM
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Did UPS Screw Up ?
I think just the title of the thread is combustible enough to set my jockey shorts on fire.
If you're reading the notes from the meeting and making that conclusion, no offense, but that involves a lot of conjecture and opinion to fill in many of the blanks between what was transcribed from the meeting and what was actually said. We are ALL entitled to our opinions, and the original poster certaintly makes valid points.
I was actually at the meeting.
The only thing that UPS screwed up that day was not getting Krispy Kreme donuts instead of the chalk board erasers that were provided.
My two cents on the DHL deal is that it involves an enomorous amount of complexities that make it a difficult deal to close. It's not like selling your airport car to some skateboarding teenager. Just consider, the logistical nightmare, along with the political influences, along with the acquisition/training/maint. of adding aircraft to our fleet and then place it side-by-side with the fact that we are competiting with the hand that is feeding us.
With all that hot air being said, I got the impression that the ACTUAL scenario of what the deal will look like is about as clear as mud and is being influenced by the direction of the economy-another mudpie that is hard to predict these days.
IMHO, the political pandering and stalling of the legislatures had some effect on closing the deal, but listening to the speakers at the meeting gave me the impression that the complexity of the deal, given the uncertainty of this roller-coaster economy was the largest factor in signing the contract.
That's just what I heard, I encourage others to throw their two cents in.
FF
I think just the title of the thread is combustible enough to set my jockey shorts on fire.
If you're reading the notes from the meeting and making that conclusion, no offense, but that involves a lot of conjecture and opinion to fill in many of the blanks between what was transcribed from the meeting and what was actually said. We are ALL entitled to our opinions, and the original poster certaintly makes valid points.
I was actually at the meeting.
The only thing that UPS screwed up that day was not getting Krispy Kreme donuts instead of the chalk board erasers that were provided.
My two cents on the DHL deal is that it involves an enomorous amount of complexities that make it a difficult deal to close. It's not like selling your airport car to some skateboarding teenager. Just consider, the logistical nightmare, along with the political influences, along with the acquisition/training/maint. of adding aircraft to our fleet and then place it side-by-side with the fact that we are competiting with the hand that is feeding us.
With all that hot air being said, I got the impression that the ACTUAL scenario of what the deal will look like is about as clear as mud and is being influenced by the direction of the economy-another mudpie that is hard to predict these days.
IMHO, the political pandering and stalling of the legislatures had some effect on closing the deal, but listening to the speakers at the meeting gave me the impression that the complexity of the deal, given the uncertainty of this roller-coaster economy was the largest factor in signing the contract.
That's just what I heard, I encourage others to throw their two cents in.
FF
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