Did UPS screw up?
12-08-2008 | 11:38 AM
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You are a true gentleman and a scholar.
12-08-2008 | 11:45 AM
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FR8K9,
I suppose you're right. We do have big ones. On a serious note though, ask yourself this. Your manglement said that there would have been 35 a/c added if the DHL deal was consummated. DHL's domestic product has now evaporated. So, presuming that it all went to UPS and FedEx, why is your company not hiring and bringing a/c out of storage? Most analysts say it was essentially a 50/50 split between the big two. As I've said before, UPS' network could take DHL's revenues without a hiccup. He's playing you guys. And you're falling for it hook, line, and sinker.
I suppose you're right. We do have big ones. On a serious note though, ask yourself this. Your manglement said that there would have been 35 a/c added if the DHL deal was consummated. DHL's domestic product has now evaporated. So, presuming that it all went to UPS and FedEx, why is your company not hiring and bringing a/c out of storage? Most analysts say it was essentially a 50/50 split between the big two. As I've said before, UPS' network could take DHL's revenues without a hiccup. He's playing you guys. And you're falling for it hook, line, and sinker.
I still think YOUR best bet is to try to get on with another carrier because it looks like a dead end job there at ASTAR, unfortunately.
I really wish you the best and I hope it works out for you. Though, I will always have a sour taste in my mouth regarding what ASTAR pilots said about UPS during the famous picket line in Atlanta.
12-08-2008 | 12:43 PM
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Lots of emotion here....and no one on this board had a say in the deal!
IMHO, one of the reasons the UPS-DHL deal evaporated was the continuing severe downturn in the US economy. Volume this month and forecast for future DHL volume, like UPS' and FDX's, fell dramatically.
No one is adding planes for the DHL part of the pie because the entire pie has shrunk.
Don't even get me started on how International freight is way down too.
IMHO, one of the reasons the UPS-DHL deal evaporated was the continuing severe downturn in the US economy. Volume this month and forecast for future DHL volume, like UPS' and FDX's, fell dramatically.
No one is adding planes for the DHL part of the pie because the entire pie has shrunk.
Don't even get me started on how International freight is way down too.
12-08-2008 | 03:10 PM
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Effectively since he's been disenfranchised he's got the "right" to say anything he wants to any UPS pilot since he's a victim (of what or who isn't material to people like him). I'm sure it will serve him well as he goes on in whatever life he chooses, and that bitterness and vitcim-hood will come shining through.
Effectively since he's been disenfranchised he's got the "right" to say anything he wants to any UPS pilot since he's a victim (of what or who isn't material to people like him). I'm sure it will serve him well as he goes on in whatever life he chooses, and that bitterness and vitcim-hood will come shining through.
12-08-2008 | 03:51 PM
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12-08-2008 | 05:13 PM
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Dog gone it, I thought I was supposed to be on the thread "Cargo pilots seem happiest".
12-08-2008 | 05:25 PM
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He didn't respond with "thank you sir, may I have another" to an insult that if going the other way would have resulted in moderation.
For Pete's sake.
12-08-2008 | 05:43 PM
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FR8K9,
I suppose you're right. We do have big ones. On a serious note though, ask yourself this. Your manglement said that there would have been 35 a/c added if the DHL deal was consummated. DHL's domestic product has now evaporated. So, presuming that it all went to UPS and FedEx, why is your company not hiring and bringing a/c out of storage? Most analysts say it was essentially a 50/50 split between the big two. As I've said before, UPS' network could take DHL's revenues without a hiccup. He's playing you guys. And you're falling for it hook, line, and sinker.
I suppose you're right. We do have big ones. On a serious note though, ask yourself this. Your manglement said that there would have been 35 a/c added if the DHL deal was consummated. DHL's domestic product has now evaporated. So, presuming that it all went to UPS and FedEx, why is your company not hiring and bringing a/c out of storage? Most analysts say it was essentially a 50/50 split between the big two. As I've said before, UPS' network could take DHL's revenues without a hiccup. He's playing you guys. And you're falling for it hook, line, and sinker.
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