FDX- ACPs, SCPs, etc, etc.
01-09-2009 | 02:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Jetjok
I guess I don't understand where we have the audacity to demand that guys in flight management "better be feeling the pain like we are."
If a management pilot is a union member, he damn well better be sharing the pain. Which brings up another question - how can a management pilot be a union member and not have that be a conflict of interests? If you can explain that one JJ, I'm all ears.
01-09-2009 | 02:09 PM
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From: MD-11 Captain
JAN MD-11 Capt RLG (Reserve Line Guarantee for you non-FDX types) = 68hrs
FEB MD-11 Capt RLG = 62 hrs
Looks like a 10% pay cut to me (still have to work the same number of days). Personally, I'm OK with the idea of 1-2 days less pay for 1-2 days less work (line holders) but that's not the story for the Reserve, Flex, Tech Pilots types
01-09-2009 | 02:23 PM
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From: 757 Captain
JAN MD-11 Capt RLG (Reserve Line Guarantee for you non-FDX types) = 68hrs
FEB MD-11 Capt RLG = 62 hrs
Looks like a 10% pay cut to me (still have to work the same number of days). Personally, I'm OK with the idea of 1-2 days less pay for 1-2 days less work (line holders) but that's not the story for the Reserve, Flex, Tech Pilots types
FEB MD-11 Capt RLG = 62 hrs
Looks like a 10% pay cut to me (still have to work the same number of days). Personally, I'm OK with the idea of 1-2 days less pay for 1-2 days less work (line holders) but that's not the story for the Reserve, Flex, Tech Pilots types
01-09-2009 | 02:31 PM
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From: 757 Captain
Unlike UPS, where a guy can be hired right off the street into a management pilot position (they, as far as I know, do not hold a seniority number), a lot of (not all) our mgmt types rotate back to the line after a few years. Some do of their own choosing, some have been encouraged to return. I've seen a handful of guys go into the jobs with the idea that the ACP is much like a flight commander or Ops O in the military, i.e. a sh$t shield for their dudes, and found that is not always the case. Guys like SM and RA (and others) have retained the respect of the crewforce with how they deal with the dilemmas they face as "middlemen" at times. Others, like CW, probably not.
01-09-2009 | 02:52 PM
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From: 11 Capt
Unlike UPS, where a guy can be hired right off the street into a management pilot position (they, as far as I know, do not hold a seniority number), a lot of (not all) our mgmt types rotate back to the line after a few years. Some do of their own choosing, some have been encouraged to return. I've seen a handful of guys go into the jobs with the idea that the ACP is much like a flight commander or Ops O in the military, i.e. a sh$t shield for their dudes, and found that is not always the case. Guys like SM and RA (and others) have retained the respect of the crewforce with how they deal with the dilemmas they face as "middlemen" at times. Others, like CW, probably not.
01-09-2009 | 03:28 PM
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01-09-2009 | 03:40 PM
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From: 757 Captain
LK's interpretation/enforcement/marching orders with regard to sick usage/policy have caused maybe a little angst amongst those that have a slightly different interpretation! 
The guys at ALPA Legal have had some fun with that.
The guys at ALPA Legal have had some fun with that.
01-09-2009 | 03:56 PM
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From: B-727 Captain
I believe they got hit with the 5% (+?) cut in management cuts when FWS took his cut. When I went to the sim last month, my instructor was telling me of one of his DO buddies that was whining about the 5% cut. He said he told him to shut up and had better not whine around the school house and AOC, as he had a 96CH guarantee each month as a DO and 5% of that is still less than the hit the crewforce had already taken in the reduced BLG/RLGs over the previous months. Pretty much shut his DO buddy up!
01-09-2009 | 04:07 PM
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From: Zeppelin Tail Gunner
JJ...there are some notable exceptions, but for many, getting into and staying in flight management wasn't an exercise in "voicing their honest opinions". And for those same managers, "helping where they can", often means helping the company suits enforce their interpretation of contentious issues. We have a perfect example before us now. Sometimes, voicing your honest opinion and helping the pilots where you can gets you the subject line of an FCIF. "Capt XXXX has requested to return to the line and we are now accepting applications for the position of "line pilot bender over". Submit your resume' to YYYYY.
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