Two Years Too Long? Another view!
05-01-2006, 05:12 AM
#11
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FoxHouter,
Glad you are a member again, but your age 60 BS is getting a little old on this board and on flightinfo. What does the 60 yr old rule have to do with this contract? Nothing! Why do we not have a contract yet? Because it would cost FedEx more, they like the status quo. Union playbook 101 my friend.
The poor 50 year old plus captains who did not like the vote take their toys and go home (ie quit ALPA) like little babies, I have no use for them. Their position is the minority so they cry like babies and quit, which is my understanding why you quit. Sour grapes! Welcome back to the fold, at least you are trying to have a voice and paying dues again. However what does this have to do with us not getting a contarct? I hope our next contract inculdes agency shop and makes these losers pay for their free ride.
The so called singing bouns offered from the company would not even cover the increase of my medical costs for the first two years, and I would want to accept this why? It was a slap in the face and not even worth the key strokes for me to vote on it. I am glad the MEC made he decision to not even waste my time to vote on it.
Get a clue. What is going on in the airline industry has nothing to do with us. Apples to oranges my friend.
I am glad Bob is your hero. He is a quitter in my eyes. If he is so successful in his business, stop flying and quit, and as the Brits would say "P!ss off".
I may not agree with everything ALPA National does or supports, but it brings us many resources and even if I am in the minority on some issues I am not going to quit like a sore loser. I will use my voice to and vote to support my position. I wish I could say the same for the other 42% of the crew force who did not bother to vote on the LOA for the ANC move.
USMCFDX
Glad you are a member again, but your age 60 BS is getting a little old on this board and on flightinfo. What does the 60 yr old rule have to do with this contract? Nothing! Why do we not have a contract yet? Because it would cost FedEx more, they like the status quo. Union playbook 101 my friend.
The poor 50 year old plus captains who did not like the vote take their toys and go home (ie quit ALPA) like little babies, I have no use for them. Their position is the minority so they cry like babies and quit, which is my understanding why you quit. Sour grapes! Welcome back to the fold, at least you are trying to have a voice and paying dues again. However what does this have to do with us not getting a contarct? I hope our next contract inculdes agency shop and makes these losers pay for their free ride.
The so called singing bouns offered from the company would not even cover the increase of my medical costs for the first two years, and I would want to accept this why? It was a slap in the face and not even worth the key strokes for me to vote on it. I am glad the MEC made he decision to not even waste my time to vote on it.
Get a clue. What is going on in the airline industry has nothing to do with us. Apples to oranges my friend.
I am glad Bob is your hero. He is a quitter in my eyes. If he is so successful in his business, stop flying and quit, and as the Brits would say "P!ss off".
I may not agree with everything ALPA National does or supports, but it brings us many resources and even if I am in the minority on some issues I am not going to quit like a sore loser. I will use my voice to and vote to support my position. I wish I could say the same for the other 42% of the crew force who did not bother to vote on the LOA for the ANC move.
USMCFDX
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05-01-2006, 06:14 AM
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Two Years is too long
To Fox Hunter:
I agree with you!!
Fedex or UPS, if a union thinks a strike or other job action is the solution in this day and age, they are sorely mistaken. A company would rather take "the hit" than be in the position the automakers are in. It would hurt, but if there were a strike at Fedex or UPS, the company would do what is necessary to continue in business with or without the strikers. They could and would be replaced.
I agree with you!!
Fedex or UPS, if a union thinks a strike or other job action is the solution in this day and age, they are sorely mistaken. A company would rather take "the hit" than be in the position the automakers are in. It would hurt, but if there were a strike at Fedex or UPS, the company would do what is necessary to continue in business with or without the strikers. They could and would be replaced.
05-01-2006, 07:23 AM
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Originally Posted by USMCFDX
FoxHouter,
Glad you are a member again, but your age 60 BS is getting a little old on this board and on flightinfo. What does the 60 yr old rule have to do with this contract? Nothing! Why do we not have a contract yet? Because it would cost FedEx more, they like the status quo. Union playbook 101 my friend.USMCFDX
Glad you are a member again, but your age 60 BS is getting a little old on this board and on flightinfo. What does the 60 yr old rule have to do with this contract? Nothing! Why do we not have a contract yet? Because it would cost FedEx more, they like the status quo. Union playbook 101 my friend.USMCFDX
The age 60 ALPA position has a great deal to do with the level of support you need and receive. Union playbook 101??? Looks like you have some book knowlege. Bob has some real life knowlege.
Originally Posted by USMCFDX
The poor 50 year old plus captains who did not like the vote take their toys and go home (ie quit ALPA) like little babies, I have no use for them. Their position is the minority so they cry like babies and quit, which is my understanding why you quit. USMCFDX
Originally Posted by USMCFDX
Sour grapes! Welcome back to the fold, at least you are trying to have a voice and paying dues again. However what does this have to do with us not getting a contarct? I hope our next contract inculdes agency shop and makes these losers pay for their free ride.USMCFDX
Originally Posted by USMCFDX
The so called singing bouns offered from the company would not even cover the increase of my medical costs for the first two years, and I would want to accept this why? It was a slap in the face and not even worth the key strokes for me to vote on it. I am glad the MEC made he decision to not even waste my time to vote on it.USMCFDX
Originally Posted by USMCFDX
Get a clue. What is going on in the airline industry has nothing to do with us. Apples to oranges my friend.USMCFDX
Originally Posted by USMCFDX
I am glad Bob is your hero. He is a quitter in my eyes. If he is so successful in his business, stop flying and quit, and as the Brits would say "P!ss off".USMCFDX
Originally Posted by USMCFDX
I may not agree with everything ALPA National does or supports, but it brings us many resources and even if I am in the minority on some issues I am not going to quit like a sore loser. I will use my voice to and vote to support my position.USMCFDX
Originally Posted by USMCFDX
I wish I could say the same for the other 42% of the crew force who did not bother to vote on the LOA for the ANC move. USMCFDX
05-01-2006, 08:03 AM
#14
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Position: FDX MD11 Capt in MEM
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Why'd you rejoin?
Foxhunter:
Why did you re-join ALPA? Your criticisms of the MEC and prognostications of failure and doom for the pilot force continue unabated. Did you have a "burp" on one of your flights and feel you may need union protection above and beyond what would be legally required to provide a non-member?
Why did you re-join ALPA? Your criticisms of the MEC and prognostications of failure and doom for the pilot force continue unabated. Did you have a "burp" on one of your flights and feel you may need union protection above and beyond what would be legally required to provide a non-member?
05-01-2006, 09:04 AM
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your either with us or against us
Originally Posted by FoxHunter
Don, your rhetoric does not cut it. Nor do the personal attacks work. You sold ALPA to the FedEx crew force with certain expectations that have not, nor will not come to pass. I think Bob has a great deal more experience in the area of ALPA and strikes than you do.
Either your a team player or you ain't. I reviewed your past posting on this site and conclude your not. If you, I, or any other union member has a problem with the way the leadership is progressing with our union than it incumbent on the membership to voice its objections and attempt to moderate the views of the leadership. The other choice would be to take a leadership position and than defend it to the membership. Either way, decisions are made and we all need to support the majority view. You will get a vote on a TA, just like every other dues paying member and the will of the majority will prevail.
Its certainly your right to voice your opinion/objection to the way the union is run. To the degree it sparks useful debate its constructive. The only place you don't get a choice is if we come to a work action, than you are either a member or a traitor.
05-01-2006, 09:32 AM
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Originally Posted by EIGHTMENOUT1
A traitor is someone who desserts his country, not someone who desserts his union. If someone desserts his union, he is only trying to support and protect his family. I laud him for that.
Otherwise known as a freeloader and more commonly as a SCAB.
05-01-2006, 10:12 AM
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UPS (pilots) deserve better
Originally Posted by EIGHTMENOUT1
A traitor is someone who desserts his country, not someone who desserts his union. If someone desserts his union, he is only trying to support and protect his family. I laud him for that.
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