Originally Posted by kronan (Post 642032)

Keep in mind that the SIG is locked out of the line construction phase of building the bid month, not the building the pairing phase.

SIG is still involved in trying to apply some common sense to the pairings constructed by the company. They just don't win as much as they should.

Originally Posted by meatloaf (Post 642091)

The company now writes the SIG notes too.

Notice how they all sound very similar now, regardless of equipment or base?

The SIG/PSIT members might be writing like mad, but the end result sure looks like whitewash if you look real close. :rolleyes:

Originally Posted by onetime (Post 642138)

That's just wrong. We are getting takin' to the bank on the way to the cleaners.

Originally Posted by onetime (Post 641976)

No retreat, no surrender! I say we get guys/gals to stop flying them. How do you propose we do that, because the things we've tried up to now have not worked or we would not be having this discussion. I'm just being a realist.

Our hard parameters will not get any better, at least until the next contract and it would appear that our soft parameters are'nt getting any better either. It might be a better idea to spend our time sending the NC our ideas of how to fix this system that obviously does not work in our independent contractor environment. And in July we can't even play the "safety" card, at least on the MD-11 DPs. Only that we can't turn with these trips and have to rest on our time off.

Originally Posted by FreightDawgyDog (Post 641655)

On the contrary, I think the membership at large does support this process. What it does not support is the mealy mouthed response of the union to those that choose to fly DP's. The fact that there is no negative recourse to discourage free agents from cherry picking these trips to fill their schedules past the 4a2b limits everyone else is stuck with is what is not supported. Isn't it ironic that 4a2b was brought on by keeping the over 60 pilots and they are flying more than half of the MD-11 Capt DP's last time I checked. Sadly the rest of the Capt DP fliers are in the 80% to 100% seniority bracket. What's broken is not the SIG working their aces off every month to try and keep our schedules safe, it's allowing their work to be given the middle finger by a small group of selfish pilots who use this process to screw the rest of us and make more money with no recrimination. God knows what our schedules would be like if the SIG wasn't there every month fighting for us. Hats off to those that sacrifice time from their families to do that job. I look forward to the day that your union leadership finds more effective ways to back you up..

Originally Posted by MD11Fr8Dog (Post 642467)

Even Lil Kim Song gets a "strongly worded" UN Resolution from time to time. ;)

Originally Posted by Unknown Rider (Post 642382)

Here's an idea. Pick up the trips, then call in sick at the last minute forcing them to be assigned to a reserve. You can always make up the sick time later.

Originally Posted by onetime (Post 642662)

That is an idea. Kind of like that bandaid on the broken leg thing though. Not to worry, this months problem will take care of itself when Dom-Flag rolls around.

Originally Posted by onetime (Post 642662)

That is an idea. Kind of like that bandaid on the broken leg thing though. Not to worry, this months problem will take care of itself when Dom-Flag rolls around.