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Old 07-08-2009, 08:13 PM
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Originally Posted by 757upspilot
Actually I prefer if they find me inside. I don't want offline pilots on the flight deck without a crewmember on board.
Its a security issue.

I jumpseat a fair amount as a P3 and I seldom am able to find the crew inside, especially when they are on a different fleet. Why is it that anything that has to do with UPS, UPS captains, and jumpseats is always a disaster? Offline pilots are so clueless when jumpseating with us because we do everything differently. Why add to it with some ridiculous concern about security? Don't answer that. It's your call what you prefer and none of my concern.
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Old 07-08-2009, 08:28 PM
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I always look for JS'ers. The offline folks are usually easy to spot by uniform or casual JS garb and approach and offer to have them follow us out. UPS folks harder to spot if we don't know each other, but they already know how to get out to the plane.
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Old 07-08-2009, 09:32 PM
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Originally Posted by L'il J.Seinfeld
I jumpseat a fair amount as a P3 and I seldom am able to find the crew inside, especially when they are on a different fleet. Why is it that anything that has to do with UPS, UPS captains, and jumpseats is always a disaster? Offline pilots are so clueless when jumpseating with us because we do everything differently. Why add to it with some ridiculous concern about security? Don't answer that. It's your call what you prefer and none of my concern.
Why post, ask and then write don't answer unless your intent is to make it seem silly or unreasonable. Offline pilots don't appear clueless to me.Your last sentence is correct.

Question. What do think the response would be if you walked down a jetway at AA and parked your butt on the jumpseat with no crewmembers present even if the agent had sent you down?
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Old 07-08-2009, 09:55 PM
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Originally Posted by SaltyDog
I always look for JS'ers. The offline folks are usually easy to spot by uniform or casual JS garb and approach and offer to have them follow us out. UPS folks harder to spot if we don't know each other, but they already know how to get out to the plane.
I do too... Every time I see a non UPS uniform I always ask if they need any help because our rules/procedures can sometimes be a little confusing...

I've seen jumpseaters wait inside the cockpit many times on a cold or a rainy day and fortunately the captains I've flown with were totally ok with that...
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Old 07-08-2009, 10:15 PM
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Originally Posted by 757upspilot
Why post, ask and then write don't answer unless your intent is to make it seem silly or unreasonable. Offline pilots don't appear clueless to me.Your last sentence is correct.

Question. What do think the response would be if you walked down a jetway at AA and parked your butt on the jumpseat with no crewmembers present even if the agent had sent you down?
Unless it's freezing or raining, I don't see it being dangerous to wait at the base of the stairs. However, if the wx sucks, I also don't see a problem with the guys going up...hell, I work at this place and don't find the crews prior to the van more than half the time...
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Old 07-09-2009, 04:19 PM
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getting dropped off at an empty airplane as a jumpseater, offline or online, is a dangerous thing. More than once I have been dropped off to find out that there was a tail swap or a major delay that the crew knew about but not the van drivers. No hurry to get out there before the crew, taking your time and heading out about 30 prior seems to do the trick
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