Amerijet STRIKE!
09-15-2009, 07:20 PM
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Congratulations
Congratulations to the Amerijet pilots. Persaverance and principles can pay off. It's hard not to politizise nor take it personally when it comes to labor management relationships in this industry. I can empathize with the emotional pain and anxiety of what these pilots have gone through.
I spent 89 days on strike at Comair. Not one pilot crossed the picket line. There were a few retired Comair pilots repositioning aircraft for the company. I'm not sure if they were tagged with being a scab or not.
I was single at the time with only myself to support. In hindsight I've gained a lot more respect for the guys and gals who had families to feed and mortgages to pay while walking the picket line. I'm a father of two now and I can only imagine how much harder it would be to walk away from the cockpit. A worker should be mentally, and to the best of their ability, financially prepared to never go back to that job if he or she chooses to go on strike.
A scab can never escape his or her past. I know of a gentlemen who dared to cross a picket line decades ago. Perhaps he thought time had covered his tracks, while seeking a job across a continent and ocean away from where he had first made his fateful decision long ago, when he applied for a flying position in Asia. His application was summarily tossed into the trash recently because the man in charge of hiring, a retired US carrier pilot and ALPA member, knew he was a scab. Aviation is a small community.
I spent 89 days on strike at Comair. Not one pilot crossed the picket line. There were a few retired Comair pilots repositioning aircraft for the company. I'm not sure if they were tagged with being a scab or not.
I was single at the time with only myself to support. In hindsight I've gained a lot more respect for the guys and gals who had families to feed and mortgages to pay while walking the picket line. I'm a father of two now and I can only imagine how much harder it would be to walk away from the cockpit. A worker should be mentally, and to the best of their ability, financially prepared to never go back to that job if he or she chooses to go on strike.
A scab can never escape his or her past. I know of a gentlemen who dared to cross a picket line decades ago. Perhaps he thought time had covered his tracks, while seeking a job across a continent and ocean away from where he had first made his fateful decision long ago, when he applied for a flying position in Asia. His application was summarily tossed into the trash recently because the man in charge of hiring, a retired US carrier pilot and ALPA member, knew he was a scab. Aviation is a small community.
09-16-2009, 04:01 AM
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Originally Posted by JasonGerald
Congratulations to the Amerijet pilots. Persaverance and principles can pay off. It's hard not to politizise nor take it personally when it comes to labor management relationships in this industry. I can empathize with the emotional pain and anxiety of what these pilots have gone through.
I spent 89 days on strike at Comair. Not one pilot crossed the picket line. There were a few retired Comair pilots repositioning aircraft for the company. I'm not sure if they were tagged with being a scab or not.
I was single at the time with only myself to support. In hindsight I've gained a lot more respect for the guys and gals who had families to feed and mortgages to pay while walking the picket line. I'm a father of two now and I can only imagine how much harder it would be to walk away from the cockpit. A worker should be mentally, and to the best of their ability, financially prepared to never go back to that job if he or she chooses to go on strike.
A scab can never escape his or her past. I know of a gentlemen who dared to cross a picket line decades ago. Perhaps he thought time had covered his tracks, while seeking a job across a continent and ocean away from where he had first made his fateful decision long ago, when he applied for a flying position in Asia. His application was summarily tossed into the trash recently because the man in charge of hiring, a retired US carrier pilot and ALPA member, knew he was a scab. Aviation is a small community.
I spent 89 days on strike at Comair. Not one pilot crossed the picket line. There were a few retired Comair pilots repositioning aircraft for the company. I'm not sure if they were tagged with being a scab or not.
I was single at the time with only myself to support. In hindsight I've gained a lot more respect for the guys and gals who had families to feed and mortgages to pay while walking the picket line. I'm a father of two now and I can only imagine how much harder it would be to walk away from the cockpit. A worker should be mentally, and to the best of their ability, financially prepared to never go back to that job if he or she chooses to go on strike.
A scab can never escape his or her past. I know of a gentlemen who dared to cross a picket line decades ago. Perhaps he thought time had covered his tracks, while seeking a job across a continent and ocean away from where he had first made his fateful decision long ago, when he applied for a flying position in Asia. His application was summarily tossed into the trash recently because the man in charge of hiring, a retired US carrier pilot and ALPA member, knew he was a scab. Aviation is a small community.
Obviously it was not a racial comment, but a observation that your history always follows you and will find you. 20,30,40 years ago, it might have been easier to cover your tracks. In this electronic era...doubtful.
09-16-2009, 10:47 AM
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Originally Posted by JasonGerald
I spent 89 days on strike at Comair. Not one pilot crossed the picket line. There were a few retired Comair pilots repositioning aircraft for the company. I'm not sure if they were tagged with being a scab or not.
09-16-2009, 06:12 PM
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Here is the link to download the master (nationwide ) list
US MASTER PILOT SCABLIST 2004.pdf - File Shared from Box.net - Free Online File Storage
US MASTER PILOT SCABLIST 2004.pdf - File Shared from Box.net - Free Online File Storage
09-17-2009, 01:09 AM
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Originally Posted by caflyer
Here is the link to download the master (nationwide ) list
US MASTER PILOT SCABLIST 2004.pdf - File Shared from Box.net - Free Online File Storage
US MASTER PILOT SCABLIST 2004.pdf - File Shared from Box.net - Free Online File Storage
Here is a supposition. Let say, one who crossed the picket line on the 4th of March of 1989 and later took a job with an ALPA carrier and wants to jump seat on his own carrier's jump seat. Can the captain of that fligh deny the jump seat to the 03/04/89 picket line crosser, who is also a member of ALPA, and now works for the same ALPA carrier? Or even another ALPA carrier for that matter.
09-17-2009, 05:45 AM
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Originally Posted by captjns
By the looks of it a number of the pilots on the list have moved onto other airlines both ALPA and Non ALPA carriers. Seems like those on the hiring committee have moved on.
Here is a supposition. Let say, one who crossed the picket line on the 4th of March of 1989 and later took a job with an ALPA carrier and wants to jump seat on his own carrier's jump seat. Can the captain of that fligh deny the jump seat to the 03/04/89 picket line crosser, who is also a member of ALPA, and now works for the same ALPA carrier? Or even another ALPA carrier for that matter.
Here is a supposition. Let say, one who crossed the picket line on the 4th of March of 1989 and later took a job with an ALPA carrier and wants to jump seat on his own carrier's jump seat. Can the captain of that fligh deny the jump seat to the 03/04/89 picket line crosser, who is also a member of ALPA, and now works for the same ALPA carrier? Or even another ALPA carrier for that matter.
You freakin' betcha! Why are we still asking the same questions over and over again. Once a scab, always a scab. IF YOU ARE ON THAT LIST YOU BETTER HAVE A BACK-UP PLAN CUZ YOU AINT RIDIN' ON THIS BUS!!!
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