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09-28-2009, 11:20 AM

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NoHaz

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Originally Posted by fdx727pilot

It always helps to read the post before commenting.

MD11s participating in the ETOPS simulations

As in doing Etops simulation prior to delivery of the 777.

Then when its delivered they simulate a higher pay rate

09-28-2009, 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by fdx727pilot

It always helps to read the post before commenting.

MD11s participating in the ETOPS simulations

As in doing Etops simulation prior to delivery of the 777.

ok..........

09-28-2009, 11:10 PM

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ETOPS does not apply to 3 engine airplanes.. Specifically for Twin Engine Airplanes.... That's the "T"

Actually in the Captain's Course a couple of weeks ago, the GOC manager and some other MD said ETOPs no longer applies to just twin engine. It is for all extended over water ops. The FAA just hasn't changed the acronymn.

09-29-2009, 12:15 AM

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Originally Posted by MaydayMark

No use expending resources over 777 pay. I know I'm "keeping my powder dry" in order to argue for a better FDA LOA for the morons who voluntarily bid the current deal? Yeah right?

Your a really great guy arent you?

09-29-2009, 03:31 AM

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Originally Posted by MaydayMark

No use expending resources over 777 pay. I know I'm "keeping my powder dry" in order to argue for a better FDA LOA for the morons who voluntarily bid the current deal? Yeah right?

Speaking of all the great deals we have gotten from our union over the past few years. I saw DW last night in CDG, I kept my head down and walked out. I just wonder when he'll join the mgmt team at FedEx?

09-29-2009, 05:05 AM

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Last time I saw DW, was in COSTCO. I told my kids to follow him around because they were hungry. And DW didn't miss a free sample in the whole store. Heck he even hit some twice. DW="D Bag"

09-29-2009, 05:06 AM

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Originally Posted by R1200RT

Speaking of all the great deals we have gotten from our union over the past few years. I saw DW last night in CDG, I kept my head down and walked out. I just wonder when he'll join the mgmt team at FedEx?

How would we be able to tell?

09-29-2009, 05:21 AM

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Originally Posted by FDXLAG

How would we be able to tell?

You make a good point.

09-29-2009, 05:24 AM

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Originally Posted by BoxDawg

Your a really great guy arent you?

No kidding. I was thinking the same thing. He would make a two week international trip very draining.

09-29-2009, 05:57 AM

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Originally Posted by BoxDawg

Your a really great guy arent you?

I thought his point was fairly valid. Both groups made their bids knowing that it wasn't the best deal and with expectations that the deal would get better. There is some artificial seniority in both bid packs. Who should we help first and how much should we give up? The main difference is the company needs some 777 work rule changes while they appear satisified with HKG current MO (lean as Gunter calls it).