FDX 777 inbound to MEM
09-29-2009, 07:49 PM
#51
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Originally Posted by FDXLAG
I thought his point was fairly valid. Both groups made their bids knowing that it wasn't the best deal and with expectations that the deal would get better. There is some artificial seniority in both bid packs. Who should we help first and how much should we give up? The main difference is the company needs some 777 work rule changes while they appear satisified with HKG current MO (lean as Gunter calls it).
Point taken. The crews that bid HKG did so knowing the LOA, but Mayday's attitude wont make their lives any better. They have many challenges to deal with out there and some of them are the crappy LOA, GT, no school allowance, weak housing allowance. I dont believe that we will get anywhere in contract negotiations throwing certain groups under the bus, which is what he is saying. A rising tide lifts all boats is where i am coming from. Lets, for a change, negotiate for all the pilots instead of certain groups. HKG, 777, everyone!
10-02-2009, 12:24 PM
#52
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Mayday does bring up a valid point. Management is going to figure out how much money they are wiling to spend. Our negotiating team's job is to make that pot as big as possible.
Next, we get to decide where that money goes. Of course, the costing models of each proposal cause problems for each side, remember Grid Penalties? We say we want X to go towards one issue and management says, that will cost X++.
So, where do you want that money to be distributed? That's what it really comes down to.
Next, we get to decide where that money goes. Of course, the costing models of each proposal cause problems for each side, remember Grid Penalties? We say we want X to go towards one issue and management says, that will cost X++.
So, where do you want that money to be distributed? That's what it really comes down to.
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