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09-27-2009 | 10:55 PM

#41

757upspilot

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Originally Posted by ⌐ AV8OR WANNABE

I agree, I know the calls happen all the time. Those "why were you late?" calls happened at every one of my previous airlines too though. So I was simply wondering if someone can really get fired for having many delays as someone pointed out?

I have not heard of anyone being terminated for delays, this is assuming that they where correct in the reasons they took they delays. The vast majority of delays I have taken have been beyond my control, mechanical, loading ( a whole variety here from late packages, broken loading equipment, start carts that quit,etc) , weather, atc, etc. Had a few occurence in the past about deicing when the gateway was not prepared for the event.
The rule is follow the rules, if it doesn't make sense for the company to want something done don't do it, if its a grey area don't go there, if you don't like or agree with a rule or policy involve the union to get it changed or have back up when you draw a line in the sand. If its illegal or marginal don't do it, if you are thinking I can get away with this keep in mind that the company tracks everything. The place lives on Industrial Engineering.

09-28-2009 | 06:10 AM

#42

UPSFO4LIFE

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Originally Posted by nightrider

Did not happen. EB says this is just a rumor and no one was terminated.
Freaking gossipy old ladies.

Actually it did happen and being made to resign is the same as being fired to me.

09-28-2009 | 06:41 AM

#43

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Originally Posted by ⌐ AV8OR WANNABE

Instead of starting a new thread a quick question to y'all. If someone gets displaced to a different domicile is he/she still obligated to the MOU options he/she agreed to?

I believe so.

09-28-2009 | 09:41 PM

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Originally Posted by notadog

Nobody has ever been terminated for delaying a flight or causing a cancellation, as long as it was justified. If one chooses to intentionally and without good cause, delay or cause a flight to cancel it could well be be a career ending decision, and it is likely to be upheld in arbitration.

Basically, terminations have been for:

1. Testing positive for banned substances or alcohol.

2. Stealing, which includes falsifying expense reports/actual theft/not being where one is supposed to be when they are getting paid to be there/falsifying military orders.

3. Chronic no - shows/UTCs.

4. Difficulties during probation.

In truth, very few people have been fired from UPS. In fact, it's pretty hard to get to that point. One has to make an effort. There is plenty of assistance from both the union and company if one is having personal issues that affects their job.

It's pretty simple to stay employed here. Don't steal. Don't lie. Come to work on time and sober, do your job like a professional, and you'll have a nice long career. Should't be too hard...

I agree. As long as you don't act like a complete moron, you will have a nice long career. I still don't get the substance abuse guys. Jesus you are giving up millions of dollars for some stupid short term experience. The same goes for stupid guys putting bogus info on expense reports. Make an effort to come to work and enjoy having one of the greatest jobs in this world.

09-29-2009 | 05:02 AM

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Originally Posted by UPSFO4LIFE

Let's just say to get fired from UPS, you have to 1. Lie to them or 2. Steal from them. The people losing their jobs, fall into one of the two.

you forgot number 3, get caught using the company copying machine for personal things

09-29-2009 | 05:06 AM

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Originally Posted by congowings

Too many times if the boxes don't move, they go out for blood.

I'be been here twenty years and have never seen that happen. Maybe a phone call, but never any sort of punitive actions. Can you please cite me an example of them going for blood over delays or a valid cancellation?

09-29-2009 | 05:12 AM

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Originally Posted by ⌐ AV8OR WANNABE

Really? I flew with a captain who said that in 20+ years here he's had numerous delays but the worst that ever happened was a call from the ACP asking what happened?

Just saw that after making my post. Did we just fly together <G>?

Vito-
If it was the guy in FL that I am thinking of, it was an FO and he was caught filing for driving expenses that he didn't actually incur. From MIA (base) to his home town that he was flying in and out of. His excuse? "Everyone is doing it"

I'm not sure that there is a company in America that wouldn't fire you for that.

09-29-2009 | 05:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Freightpuppy

What do you mean "bought out"?

allowed to retire

09-29-2009 | 05:19 AM

#49

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Originally Posted by HeavyJet

I still don't get the substance abuse guys. Jesus you are giving up millions of dollars for some stupid short term experience.

That alone goes a long way to explaining its' classification as a diesease. A thinking individual wouldn't be able to make the rationalization that you point out.

Heard that the last guy (ONT) was dimed out by a jealous wife. Apparently he was out hiking the appalachian trail while she thought he was on a trip.