Every employee, no matter where employed, needs to protect themselves at all times. Why would you say UPS is any different? I have been a part of a delay and flown with those who have caused delays and do not know of one who was fired for that alone. Also, failed checkrides will not get you fired here. Go ask those who have failed and those who were "bought out" because they could not pass an upgrade. It is very very hard to lose you job here because you lack the skills to do your job.

 

Nobody has ever been terminated for delaying a flight or causing a cancellation, as long as it was justified. If one chooses to intentionally and without good cause, delay or cause a flight to cancel it could well be be a career ending decision, and it is likely to be upheld in arbitration.

Basically, terminations have been for:

1. Testing positive for banned substances or alcohol.

2. Stealing, which includes falsifying expense reports/actual theft/not being where one is supposed to be when they are getting paid to be there/falsifying military orders.

3. Chronic no - shows/UTCs.

4. Difficulties during probation.


In truth, very few people have been fired from UPS. In fact, it's pretty hard to get to that point. One has to make an effort. There is plenty of assistance from both the union and company if one is having personal issues that affects their job.

It's pretty simple to stay employed here. Don't steal. Don't lie. Come to work on time and sober, do your job like a professional, and you'll have a nice long career. Should't be too hard...

 

If you're a union employee it is difficult to get fired. If you are not union, they will fire you for any reason they want. I have heard some horror stories.

 

Did not happen. EB says this is just a rumor and no one was terminated.
Freaking gossipy old ladies.

 

Read it closely.

No one was terminated - but there have been a couple of resignations recently. Think about it.

 

There's some stupid people out there. What kills me is that obviously they did something right to get hired and then they do such stupid crap and get fired. Crazy!

 

What do you mean "bought out"?

 

"Why would you say UPS is any different?" - UPSFO4LIFE

I didn't say UPS was any different.


"I have been a part of a delay and flown with those who have caused delays and do not know of one who was fired for that alone." - UPSFO4LIFE

I also didn't say anyone in particular was fired. I do know 'some' have been made 'uncomfortable' with their decision.

I think it unfortunate there are some who seem to think disciplinary issues concerning others is their business and it should be discussed in public without even knowing the true details. My only point is one must always protect oneself when flying for this company - or any other company with the same working environment.

 

I always wondered about that... About two years ago I overheard a conversation a mangler had with one of our line captains. The premise of the conversation was if the mangler ever regreted going over to the dark side? I think those two pilots were friends and used to work together at another airline prior to ups.

The mangler said there were many things he didn't like but overall he was ok with it. He mentioned that "overworked managers who can get fired left and right" is a myth as in the last 20 years only 1 or 2 were let go. He seemed pretty content with his choice.

Have no idea how true that it, just what I heard. Personally I'd never cross over for a gazillion reasons, solidarity with my brothers and sisters being the most important one but that's a totally different story...


Instead of starting a new thread a quick question to y'all. If someone gets displaced to a different domicile is he/she still obligated to the MOU options he/she agreed to?

 

I agree, I know the calls happen all the time. Those "why were you late?" calls happened at every one of my previous airlines too though. So I was simply wondering if someone can really get fired for having many delays as someone pointed out?