No early retirement incentive at UPS
12-25-2009, 06:39 AM
#71
Freightmama!
Joined APC: Dec 2005
Position: 757/767 FO
Posts: 2,880
All I know is that a buddy of mine who is furloughed says there are NO (as in zip, zilch, nada!) jobs out there. Now I don't know if he's looked at corporate or not.
Let's not put the cart ahead of the horse regarding furlough. I know it's scary that it's hanging over our heads but it has not officially happened yet.
In any case guys, hopefully you are not living through your first Christmas without a loved one, because I am and it sucks! I miss my mom so badly....I would take a furlough, paycut, ANYTHING to have her back.
Merry Christmas! (I'm going to put on my best game face for my son and open presents from Santa now)
Let's not put the cart ahead of the horse regarding furlough. I know it's scary that it's hanging over our heads but it has not officially happened yet.
In any case guys, hopefully you are not living through your first Christmas without a loved one, because I am and it sucks! I miss my mom so badly....I would take a furlough, paycut, ANYTHING to have her back.
Merry Christmas! (I'm going to put on my best game face for my son and open presents from Santa now)
12-25-2009, 06:41 AM
#72
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Joined APC: Oct 2008
Posts: 358
Maybe not split beyond repair, but certainly divided. Personally, I am holding a grudge against those who are not participating and benefiting from those of us who do. And the old guys, screw em. Why should I go forward like there is no problem with the IPA? At this point we certainly are the "Association of Independent Pilots" and I will admit I am one of them too!
12-25-2009, 07:22 AM
#73
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Feb 2008
Position: MD-11 Captain
Posts: 320
Originally Posted by FR8TFLYER
Maybe not split beyond repair, but certainly divided. Personally, I am holding a grudge against those who are not participating and benefiting from those of us who do. And the old guys, screw em. Why should I go forward like there is no problem with the IPA? At this point we certainly are the "Association of Independent Pilots" and I will admit I am one of them too!
12-25-2009, 07:27 AM
#74
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Dec 2005
Position: Leftof longitudinal
Posts: 1,899
Originally Posted by FR8TFLYER
Maybe not split beyond repair, but certainly divided. Personally, I am holding a grudge against those who are not participating and benefiting from those of us who do. And the old guys, screw em. Why should I go forward like there is no problem with the IPA? At this point we certainly are the "Association of Independent Pilots" and I will admit I am one of them too!
Why? What is the alternative?
70% have contributed more than a 100% mandated amount that may have been voted on by the IPA.
Need to look beyond for a long term strategy and not fall prey to managements dream. This IMO was the very few elements of teh MOU that management was hoping to exploit. It appears you are allowing them to succeed. The ability to divide between those who have and have not. Short sighted and you and me are the only losers, not UPS. They will do what they want regardless. We have challenges, we all agree. Continuing to inject poison of a grudge hurts future contract talks, etc.
Merry Christmas.
12-25-2009, 08:19 AM
#75
Banned
Joined APC: Oct 2008
Posts: 358
I have contributed a great deal to the MOU and it ****es me off to see others who will be negatively affected by the MOU benefiting by our sacrifice then gloat that they are not participating. Just flew with an individual who had this same attitude then turns and waives the contract to help the company out, ****??? How do I unite with these type of guys, they could care less about furloughs?
12-25-2009, 10:15 AM
#76
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Dec 2005
Position: Leftof longitudinal
Posts: 1,899
Originally Posted by FR8TFLYER
I have contributed a great deal to the MOU and it ****es me off to see others who will be negatively affected by the MOU benefiting by our sacrifice then gloat that they are not participating. Just flew with an individual who had this same attitude then turns and waives the contract to help the company out, ****??? How do I unite with these type of guys, they could care less about furloughs?
Last round, many of these folks went on to become supervisors. Sounds like you just flew with one.
12-25-2009, 04:49 PM
#78
Banned
Joined APC: Oct 2008
Posts: 358
Originally Posted by FrontSeat
Uh OH !!! 757upspilot and 767pilot will not like this.....
you are in trouble now...
you must learn to conform to their way of thinking, and their view of UPS and Senior pilots to remain on this forum.
Resistance is futile !!
you are in trouble now...
you must learn to conform to their way of thinking, and their view of UPS and Senior pilots to remain on this forum.
Resistance is futile !!
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