UPS Furlough
02-20-2010, 01:36 PM
#341
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Originally Posted by Xtwinbeechguy
I agree with you on both thoughts. I've flown and spent quite a bit of time with you over the last few years since you've been back and respect you're opinion.
I just get a little short sighted sometimes. I need to take the hearsay and leave it at that. I guess I'll get my questions answered tonight at the meeting.
I just get a little short sighted sometimes. I need to take the hearsay and leave it at that. I guess I'll get my questions answered tonight at the meeting.
Like the saying goes...
Lord, grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change, the courage to change the things I can and the wisdom to hide the bodies of those I had to kill because they ****ed me off.
And at all times try to find humor (even if cynical) in everything associated with UPS, because much of the time it's the only refuge.
02-20-2010, 02:08 PM
#342
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Originally Posted by L'il J.Seinfeld
If you think ANC is bad and goes junior wait until Shenzen opens as a domicile.
The number one threat to long term pilot careers at UPS is UAVs. A close second is a China domicile.
The number one threat to long term pilot careers at UPS is UAVs. A close second is a China domicile.
02-20-2010, 02:18 PM
#343
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Originally Posted by 767pilot
I'll fly a UAV out of here before I'd go to Shenzen
02-20-2010, 04:15 PM
#344
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Originally Posted by Sideshow Bob
Third rate only if you think of yourself that way. UPS doesn't think of "hourlies" as anything but a cost and a liability. Don't take it personally.
As for IPA, name one union who has done more for pilots at risk or on furlough. ALPA, APA, Teamsters? SWAPA will likely never be even remotely challenged, as SWA management views their pilots as assets.
As for IPA, name one union who has done more for pilots at risk or on furlough. ALPA, APA, Teamsters? SWAPA will likely never be even remotely challenged, as SWA management views their pilots as assets.
Hi Bob,
ATLANTA (TheStreet) --UPS (UPS Quote) moved Thursday to address its "problem" -- too much cash -- by raising its dividend.
The company said it would increase the quarterly dividend to 47 cents from 45 cents, payable March 3 to shareholders of record on Feb. 16.
The company on Tuesday guided toward earnings of $2.70 to $3.05 a share in the current year. Analysts surveyed by Thomson Reuters had been estimating $2.81. On an earnings conference call, CFO Kurt Kuehn said the guidance was "aggressive," but justified by increasing revenue and declines in projecting spending.
"We are going to be back soon hopefully to that problem of what to do with excess cash generation," Kuehn said. "We have no intentions of building a large hoard of cash."
It's hard not to take it personally because the excercise this company has embarked upon is an attempt renegotiate the current collective bargaining agreement (early) to seek concessions. The company is holding 300 families as hostages and punishing the rest of the affected pilot group (thru displacements).
We the pilot force may be just a number, but we are also CEO's of every flight. Savings could be realized by asking us how to do the job better and more efficiently. We waste thousands and maybe more. Most of us have worked at bankrupt outfits before this and know how to stretch a dollar if given the right motivation. Unfortunately, this excercise has galvanized the "us" versus "them" mentality which anyone who has taken Management 101 knows that disgruntled employees are costly employees.
FF
02-20-2010, 08:42 PM
#345
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Originally Posted by Sideshow Bob
Not so fast...I read an article where they've got split screens with porn sites to attract more interest.
02-20-2010, 09:54 PM
#346
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Originally Posted by FliFast
Hi Bob,
ATLANTA (TheStreet) --UPS (UPS Quote) moved Thursday to address its "problem" -- too much cash -- by raising its dividend.
The company said it would increase the quarterly dividend to 47 cents from 45 cents, payable March 3 to shareholders of record on Feb. 16.
The company on Tuesday guided toward earnings of $2.70 to $3.05 a share in the current year. Analysts surveyed by Thomson Reuters had been estimating $2.81. On an earnings conference call, CFO Kurt Kuehn said the guidance was "aggressive," but justified by increasing revenue and declines in projecting spending.
"We are going to be back soon hopefully to that problem of what to do with excess cash generation," Kuehn said. "We have no intentions of building a large hoard of cash."
It's hard not to take it personally because the excercise this company has embarked upon is an attempt renegotiate the current collective bargaining agreement (early) to seek concessions. The company is holding 300 families as hostages and punishing the rest of the affected pilot group (thru displacements).
We the pilot force may be just a number, but we are also CEO's of every flight. Savings could be realized by asking us how to do the job better and more efficiently. We waste thousands and maybe more. Most of us have worked at bankrupt outfits before this and know how to stretch a dollar if given the right motivation. Unfortunately, this excercise has galvanized the "us" versus "them" mentality which anyone who has taken Management 101 knows that disgruntled employees are costly employees.
FF
ATLANTA (TheStreet) --UPS (UPS Quote) moved Thursday to address its "problem" -- too much cash -- by raising its dividend.
The company said it would increase the quarterly dividend to 47 cents from 45 cents, payable March 3 to shareholders of record on Feb. 16.
The company on Tuesday guided toward earnings of $2.70 to $3.05 a share in the current year. Analysts surveyed by Thomson Reuters had been estimating $2.81. On an earnings conference call, CFO Kurt Kuehn said the guidance was "aggressive," but justified by increasing revenue and declines in projecting spending.
"We are going to be back soon hopefully to that problem of what to do with excess cash generation," Kuehn said. "We have no intentions of building a large hoard of cash."
It's hard not to take it personally because the excercise this company has embarked upon is an attempt renegotiate the current collective bargaining agreement (early) to seek concessions. The company is holding 300 families as hostages and punishing the rest of the affected pilot group (thru displacements).
We the pilot force may be just a number, but we are also CEO's of every flight. Savings could be realized by asking us how to do the job better and more efficiently. We waste thousands and maybe more. Most of us have worked at bankrupt outfits before this and know how to stretch a dollar if given the right motivation. Unfortunately, this excercise has galvanized the "us" versus "them" mentality which anyone who has taken Management 101 knows that disgruntled employees are costly employees.
FF
At that point I certainly only care that there is enough business to keep us employed while denying them their bonus.
02-21-2010, 04:44 AM
#347
Freightmama!
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No exec will ever deny themselves a bonus to keep a pee on employed...they are all scum.
02-21-2010, 05:30 AM
#348
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Originally Posted by FliFast
It's hard not to take it personally because the excercise this company has embarked upon is an attempt renegotiate the current collective bargaining agreement (early) to seek concessions. The company is holding 300 families as hostages and punishing the rest of the affected pilot group (thru displacements).
FF
What could we possibly give them that would solve our staffing issue?
02-21-2010, 05:36 AM
#349
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Originally Posted by Night_Hawk
Which leads to the question:
What could we possibly give them that would solve our staffing issue?
What could we possibly give them that would solve our staffing issue?
A lower guarantee ... 60-65 hours for example. They want the FedEx 4a2b language.
But won't get it !
02-21-2010, 05:48 AM
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Originally Posted by CactusCrew
A lower guarantee ... 60-65 hours for example. They want the FedEx 4a2b language.
But won't get it !
But won't get it !
so we don't want either. We just want some unconditional love from brown.
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