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fdx727pilot 08-07-2006 07:47 AM


Originally Posted by USNFDX
NoKoolAid,

My hats off to you!!!

While most of us realize not all of the flex guys are SCABS, many are!

I don't know how long you have been here, or in ALPA. However, the word SCAB has a very specific, and extremely ugly meaning. You can call these extra flying types a lot of things, but only a few are SCABS, and that has to do with actions at another carrier. As an 10 SO, about 6 years ago (obviously not during negotiations,) I picked up a AVA trip that happened to go to my parent's hometown. BTW - My Block Rep at the time encouraged such flying, told me to "Soak Fred for as much as you can." The FO heard I was on AVA, and called me a SCAB for doing it. As an ALPA member for over 15 years, starting at another, now non-existent carrier, if the CAP hadn't interceded, I would have cold-cocked the SOB. Spouting rhetoric, and turning down extra flying is not all you need to do. Get educated on our union. Find out what a real SCAB is, and be careful what language you throw around.

captain_drew 08-07-2006 08:08 AM


Originally Posted by USNFDX
While most of us realize not all of the flex guys are SCABS, many are!

I concur with what was said above. If one of these guys crossed a picket line and flew STRUCK work at another airline in the past, THEN they are a SCAB. ONCE a SCAB, ALWAYS a SCAB.

B-U-T . .since we have YET to have a STRIKE at the Purple Plantation . .NO ONE, who has only worked here has had the chance to cross that theoretical picket line. We KNOW who the folks are who WOULD . .but that does not make them a SCAB . . . YET!

SO. . .unless you want to have someone justifiably slap you silly for your inflammatory, slanderous rhetoric, ratchet it down a notch.

USNFDX 08-07-2006 09:02 AM

My apologies for the use of the "ugly" word...I have edited my comments.

Huck 08-07-2006 10:04 AM

All you guys talking about dropping trips - how are you doing that? I haven't been able to drop for 4 months - I get "insufficient reserves."

fedupbusdriver 08-07-2006 10:14 AM


Originally Posted by Huck
All you guys talking about dropping trips - how are you doing that? I haven't been able to drop for 4 months - I get "insufficient reserves."


Probably military drops.

MD11driver 08-07-2006 01:17 PM


Originally Posted by Huck
All you guys talking about dropping trips - how are you doing that? I haven't been able to drop for 4 months - I get "insufficient reserves."

I know it may not be ideal for you, but that's probably a good sign...a sign that scheduling is having a hard time filling trips, and not having enough reserves to throw another open time trip in the mix.

We're parking jets everyday...let's keep it up!

Fraternally,
MD11driver

MD114Ever 08-07-2006 04:40 PM

I ran into a Capt tonight at the James Joyce who was on a week long RF2 pairing. He said he didn't realize he was doing anything wrong until after he got past the first ocean crossing. The trip began with a dh to CDG.

Huck 08-07-2006 04:42 PM

Tell Jimmy I said to feck off....

MD114Ever 08-07-2006 04:47 PM


Originally Posted by Huck
All you guys talking about dropping trips - how are you doing that? I haven't been able to drop for 4 months - I get "insufficient reserves."

I have been able to drop a few trips if I submit the drop within 4 or 5 days of the trip. By then, the long trips have been covered which helps to free up max open. I have submitted the same drop requests earlier in the month and I've been turned down due to "insufficient reserves."

Also, I've dropped several trips via CIC and refusing sub.

Huck 08-07-2006 05:44 PM

Brilliant. I learn something every day!

I'll give it a try.....

BTW - what does "Max Open" tell you? Is it the # of reserves?


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