767pilot

If it is anything less than 50% + 1 you will probably never hear how close or far away we were.

757upspilot

They work for a more disfunctional company. If it fails we go after the jobs without them

SaltyDog

FD2,
Have heart, come on over. Enjoy the contractual protections you deserve with the flying duties you presently perform. Accretion will probably be very good to you all. Assuredly, the issue will not be short lived. Though it sat dormant for so long it will now go through the full process. The furlough was a cause and effect. IPA was willing to pay to keep IPA on property and avoid the whole issue. The rejection wiped out any friction. A generous group the IPA is, that is why DOH was offered and likely a favorable accretion for protection of those who desire same duties, etc.
Good luck

767pilot

I think you found TJH. I wonder why these guys think that they can't still be part of their elite team with a union card in their pocket?

FreightDawg2

TJH? Help me...I dont speak bulletin board very well.

FreightDawg2

I cant say that we dont have our problems, but you have absolutely no basis to go after anything. I think you should try and get your own house in order, become more productive and work on growing the business, so we need more pilots. That would serve us ALL better.

757upspilot

TH for a Lawyer you write a terrible letter.

757upspilot

We want the positions, always have, we just don't want be be managers to get them. We are making the offer to bring you in with the positions and give you date of hire seniority. No where else in the industry are these positions non union, we let this go because with the expansion why mess with the stuff we didn't care about that much, you have to displace to fly and we don't have to let you, we don't want to fly a crummy trip a FQS gets stuck with it, FO doesn't have to fly with you if they are willing to take the pay hit, so until the company decided to put IPA pilots on the street we let it slide.

UPSierra

Ah, the truth unveils itself. This is all about going after the jobs with no desire for the additional headcount. Does anyone actually believe the IPA is driven out of a concern for the management pilots? Believing the altruistic intentions of the IPA is truly what I would call "disfunctional" placement of trust.

Just think, if you can find enough gullible Sups to "trust" the IPA with their careers and get enough returned cards, that would be perfect. You put up a token fight for DOH integration, then staple them to the bottom. "Sorry guys - we tried. (Suckers! - snicker, snicker)" BT then saves 160 jobs for the bottom current membership and forces the company to furlough the management pilots. Very cleaver, yet very transparent.

I wish we could let a few disgruntled sups go back to the line. It would raise the average IQ of both groups.

757upspilot

Glad to see one of our FQS thinks so highly of us. The offer was made for DOH and that is what will happen if you vote for the IPA, if you don't the UNION will go after the jobs based on class and craft. You could call the IPA office and ask BT.