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Old 03-16-2010, 05:15 PM
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Those guys should quit to make up for the avarice and greed among the upper managers? How about anybody with a military income, pension or reserve gig, take a LOA or quit so that other guys can feed their families. You've got enough. Any takers?
Been doing that for about a year, but hey, I'm bottom-ish

Guess I better step it up.
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Old 03-16-2010, 05:23 PM
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Been doing that for about a year, but hey, I'm bottom-ish

Guess I better step it up.
Did golfandfly thank you or any of the age 60 guys that left? If he did, I'll add my thanks. If he didn't, somehow it figures.
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Old 03-16-2010, 05:37 PM
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Former is n/a. Latter has my thanks and congrats, actually.
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Old 03-16-2010, 07:20 PM
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300 out of the 2400 others could quit or take a leave for three years and save the jobs too.
I'll take a leave if someone is willing to give me my pay for 3 years.....

Calling all captains.....calling all captains.....LOL!
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Old 03-16-2010, 07:22 PM
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Here we go again. You guys make it sound like their are nightly wheel chair races and bingo games at the ASC
Come on! You and I have both bet on those races.....LMAO!
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Old 03-16-2010, 08:46 PM
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Hey, loud and clear right now,

I didn't want this to be a junior vs senior thread. Sure, I would love to see retirements for any reason.

At anytime UPS could have come forward and ponied up a bit for retirements or the slight shortfall in the MOU. They didn't. Period. Lets move on.

This company shelved the MOU, which I gave 30% to, and countless others gave much more. At this point, I'll let my EB do the talking. UPS shoved first, our EB is shoving back, so be it.

I'll back senior/junior IPAers equally. I'm blaming this one on UPS.
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Old 03-16-2010, 08:55 PM
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Originally Posted by 767pilot View Post
300 out of the 2400 others could quit or take a leave for three years and save the jobs too.
I know this was a sarcastic remark. But what is sad, is that if 300 actually did quit or take leave, there is nothing that says the company would NOT furlough 300 from the bottom.

They have NOT offered voluntary furloughs or LOAs to mitigate the number of furloughs, and they most likely won't ...
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Old 03-17-2010, 05:15 AM
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You are right. We haven't seen any evidence on one for one job savings for retirements/quitting/ or LOA's.

Question- If a guy takes a mil LOA, can he come back any time he wants if his orders change? If so, I can see them not giving us credit for that as a job save.
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Old 03-17-2010, 05:25 AM
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You are right. We haven't seen any evidence on one for one job savings for retirements/quitting/ or LOA's.

Question- If a guy takes a mil LOA, can he come back any time he wants if his orders change? If so, I can see them not giving us credit for that as a job save.

UPS did give full credit to Mil leaves under MOU1 and MOU2, and the same caveat applied (they could come back early, but the IPA still got full credit)
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Old 03-17-2010, 06:05 AM
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UPS did give full credit to Mil leaves under MOU1 and MOU2, and the same caveat applied (they could come back early, but the IPA still got full credit)
Yea, I was wondering about now though. I guess that there are no rules any more, back to them doing what they wanted. Under the MOU they gave us credit for a lot of stuff that we didn't really earn. For example, full credit for RDG when they used the pilots in some domiciles/seatsand didn't use the full amount of RDG. The company actually figured that in the end, they got 85% value for each dollar that we pledged. Not our fault, theirs entirely, but that was what it came out to and explains a little bit of their reluctance to go forward with MOU3....that and the fact that they are a bunch of butt heads trying to pick a fight <G>
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